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re: Dallas PD Guyger Trial: Guilty of Murder..Sentence to 10years in prison

Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:12 am to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:12 am to
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No indication of what degree?




There is no degree of murder in Texas.


Someone needs to tell Judge Napolitano that. The idiot was talking about the different levels and such.

I do agree that manslaughter seems more correct but don't know what the Texas law calls for.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:12 am to
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too bad the jury wasn't stuffed with god-fearing baby boomers like yourself to deliver that good woman from a politically motivated trial!



No, it was stuffed with Dallas residents, which are mostly race baiting SJWs like yourself.

That's all that's left in Dallas now. Race baiters, race hustlers, WOKE SJWs and criminals. All the good citizens left for the suburbs.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40142 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:12 am to
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Context is key.

It's manslaughter.


Jury disagrees.

I don't see a clear and compelling case that it has to be manslaughter, given the context. I don't see an appeals court downgrading or throwing this one out.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42748 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am to
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The difference between murder and manslaughter is intent. She intended to kill him when she fired.


You can use that blanket statement for any person with a gun who actually fires it.

She for whatever reason thought she was in fear of her life and for whatever reason thought she was in her domicile.

She was wrong on both accords and should serve time.

Still is not murder.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am to
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No, it was stuffed with Dallas residents, which are mostly race baiting SJWs like yourself.

That's all that's left in Dallas now. Race baiters, race hustlers, WOKE SJWs and criminals. All the good citizens left for the suburbs.


The fact that this is the route you are going with this says so much about you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464593 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am to
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To them, all that matters was white person shot black man, she needs to fry. That's all they care about.


no

a 100% innocent man was killed by a person who had no legal, moral, or ethical reason to shoot him. that person also refused to give him aid and called a co-workers for advice on how to get away with killing people, b/c he had done so previously
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37739 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am to
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But..but....she's going to walk! Our judicial system is broken!




i never said either of those things

i'm on the record saying manslaughter was a more appropriate charge here
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42748 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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Jury disagrees.

I don't see a clear and compelling case that it has to be manslaughter, given the context. I don't see an appeals court downgrading or throwing this one out.



That's fine. It's why we have an appeals process.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40142 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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The difference between murder and manslaughter is intent. She intended to kill him when she fired.


This. She pointed the weapon and fired in an attempt to kill him.

She didn't waive the gun at him, threaten him, and it accidentally went off.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83027 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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no

a 100% innocent man was killed by a person who had no legal, moral, or ethical reason to shoot him. that person also refused to give him aid and called a co-workers for advice on how to get away with killing people, b/c he had done so previously
100% this
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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a 100% innocent man was killed by a person who had no legal, moral, or ethical reason to shoot him. that person also refused to give him aid and called a co-workers for advice on how to get away with killing people, b/c he had done so previously



I agree with all of this, but its still not murder.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42748 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:15 am to
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that person also refused to give him aid and called a co-workers for advice on how to get away with killing people, b/c he had done so previously




This is erroneous given the situation.

It's easy to say you would do this and that from a keyboard on the internet. However, if you actually shot someone and realized that you may have just massively fricked up, it would be interesting to see how you would respond.

Again not saying what she did was right, it was horribly wrong.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85106 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:16 am to
Right back at ya. And anybody else who chooses to THINK rather than emote.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:16 am to
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Someone needs to tell Judge Napolitano that. The idiot was talking about the different levels and such.

I was noticing that too while watching from work. I was like, “WTF is this judge talking about.”
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:16 am to
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The fact that this is the route you are going with this says so much about you.



The fact you are making excuses for the shithole Dallas has become speaks a lot about you. It's becoming more and more of a laughing stock of a city by the day. South Dallas runs the city now and its becoming a crime infested, murder infested shanty town.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149355 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to
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. that person also refused to give him aid and called a co-workers for advice on how to get away with killing people, b/c he had done so previously
this is what ive never been able to get over. do i believe she ultimately should have gotten manslaughter or negligent homicide? sure. but this is so heinous that i have no real qualms with her getting murder
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7106 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to
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No im just not retarded to think that this lady woke up thinking she wanted to shoot this specific black man THAT DAY.


You're seemingly considering intent to be equal to premeditation.

Premeditation is not requisite for murder in Texas.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83027 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to
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It's easy to say you would do this and that from a keyboard on the internet. However, if you actually shot someone and realized that you may have just massively fricked up, it would be interesting to see how you would respond.
so she's one of the worst trained law enforcement personnel that we've ever seen, basically.

remember, she's isn't some civilian who might panic and not know what to do in this situation.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27211 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to
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All the good citizens left for the suburbs.


I resemble this remark
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13663 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to
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i never said either of those things



I'm just giving you shite. Everyone can agree she needs to go to jail for what she did. The scariest resolution was a hung jury and her walking. So much bickering in this thread on "I wanna be right.." instead of justice was served.
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