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re: Dafuq is Going on with this Aircraft Carrier?
Posted on 4/30/22 at 5:35 pm to Boomwayne
Posted on 4/30/22 at 5:35 pm to Boomwayne
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I do know the suck it up get the job done and do more with less mentality can only be sustained for so long before someone breaks.
This was the Navy way the entire time I was in. You either hack it or you don't. Apparently some of these junior sailors aren't built for the life.
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:37 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:non - stop flight quarters 18 high impact then 6 hour low impact.... eastern med, july august - had to get IVs you couldn't drink enough to stay hydrated on flight deck.
The one tour I did was right at ten months and we were on 18 hour days (also losing sleep with helicopter takeoffs / landings and underway replenishments. Sleep was hard to come by and the work was never ending.
If they have it worse, then God bless them, because that was brutal to go through.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:42 pm to Boomwayne
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Oh trust me the wife, son, and I know the optempo very well.
The mental toughness comment is an anecdotal statement. Obviously certain individuals handle stress better than others. I just see more issues now than when I first joined. Maybe I was oblivious to it? I just can not comprehend killing myself as a way to deal with it. Its hard on everyone left behind.
I do know the suck it up get the job done and do more with less mentality can only be sustained for so long before someone breaks. We take a lot of pride in getting it done sometimes at the expense of our families, personal life, sanity.
Hopefully the Navy will take a deep look into this and come to some meaningful policy change or at a minimum identify some root cause.
Even in the civilian world though, you see it with many more in this generation.. Uh NO I'm not working in this weather or on sunday. blah blah. COuld it be that some at the back of the line in the military now would not have gotten in 10-20 or 30 years ago?
and No i don't just mean the don't ask don't tell crowd.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:58 pm to pankReb
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had no idea about that shuttle
But you were so sure because you live "down the river".
Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:04 pm to pankReb
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What's it like to have single-digit IQ?
Oh come on, be fair.
His IQ is at least 80.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:31 pm to mworld938
I will tell you exactly what’s going on because I spent two years of my life in the yards on a carrier. Basically it’s a high stress environment and you combine that with a lot of the crew having to stay onboard either on ship or in a barracks barge people will crack. Having said that I was in reactor department so we are used to long hours and hard work. Most if not all these suicides aren’t coming from that department. Most of the other departments aren’t used to living in conditions like that.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:34 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
Suicide in the military is a leadership failure. Doesnt matter what branch, it is a failure of leadership.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:21 pm to IAmNERD
quote:and I said my friend's kid rode said shuttle
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had no idea about that shuttle
But you were so sure because you live "down the river".
and he resides .... in Chesapeake
Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:45 pm to upgrayedd
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If we ever get into a medium to large scale naval battle, we're going to take some pretty bad losses
Lol, and who is that battle gonna be with? Russia?? China doesn’t have a navy. Iran? Lol.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:20 am to JudgeHolden
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But recent Marine deployments put a hell of a lot more on the average lance corporal than sailors in dry dock are ever going to experience.
It’s a different kind of stress. And sleep deprivation, combined with an uncaring chain of command, affects everyone the same way.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:21 am to baldona
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China doesn’t have a navy.
The hell they don’t.
They are currently building up their naval strength at a rapid pace for the explicit purpose of challenging our dominance of the seas.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:58 am to JudgeHolden
Hillary?
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:32 am to JudgeHolden
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I don’t doubt the strain on Navy personnel. But recent Marine deployments put a hell of a lot more on the average lance corporal than sailors in dry dock are ever going to experience.
I have avoided posting in this thread since I don't know what it is like being in the Navy and don't know what it is like being enlisted in any branch.
That being said, there is a big difference in the mental approach to being deployed especially in a combat zone compared to being in garrison. It requires a level of focus and single mindedness that one can only sustain so long. Even being on FTX and being in an IRF is a step up mentally and physically than what SHOULD occur when in garrison. My unit spent 6 months at a time on IRF-1 ready to put boots on the ground anywhere in the world in 18 hours. The op tempo increased and the stress increased. My soldiers needed the downtime (such as it is) to recharge for the next round of whatever came. If you grind on troops in garrison they are going to be less effective if/when you do deploy.
A human can only maintain morale and effectiveness so long. Sometimes you have to just drive through when deployed but when your life is as bad or worse in garrison you can never recharge and your and the unit's effectiveness go down.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:42 am to Obtuse1
Another factor is due to declining birth rates and increased housing sizes, more people grow up in a private environment than 30,40 years ago. Living in a berthing space of 59 people is less of an issue if you and your 2 brothers shared a room growing up in your 1200 sqft. 3 bedroom house in 1962.
Today that kid has his own room from birth, and grows up with that personal space - spending a lot of time there on his computer.
Today that kid has his own room from birth, and grows up with that personal space - spending a lot of time there on his computer.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 12:13 pm to JudgeHolden
Morale crushed by the Pentagons LGBTQ, anti-white WOKE push.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 12:20 pm to JudgeHolden
Nothing to do with LBQTG (or whatever it is), nor trannys, nor whoever is in the white house. Many young people face little adversity from home/school. Parents/teachers give multiple chances, accept mediocre effort and enforce little accountability. Coping skills/toughness/resiliency are learned at early ages. Mostly it has to do with a softer generation of young people coupled with softer basic/training/discipline in the ranks.
Mental health care in the military is woefully inadequate and needs to be completely reworked.
Mental health care in the military is woefully inadequate and needs to be completely reworked.
This post was edited on 5/1/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 5/1/22 at 12:33 pm to greenbean
Beg to differ. Wokeism has destroyed the non commissioned office role which was the first line of support for the enlisted folks. The distance created between leadership and the grunts is cause for suicides
Posted on 5/2/22 at 5:39 pm to Strannix
quote:You seem really really obsessed with gay people in uniforms. There are counselors who might be able to help you with your questions.
Morale crushed by the Pentagons LGBTQ, anti-white WOKE push.
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