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re: Cursive Writing, Should this be mandated in elementary school?

Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:16 am to
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:16 am to
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Computers kill your argument.


This and cuneiform was more important than cursive but we don't do that anymore either.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:17 am to
kids should know how to read and write it for sure. It's still taught where I'm at, my friend's kid is ten and writes in it.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:17 am to
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I also have cursive to thank for being able to write quickly. If I didn't know cursive I couldn't take the notes I do at the speed I do. I write a blend of print and cursive. I know which letters can be linked with other letters in the most efficient way.

^^ Gets it
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:18 am to
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that shite took me forever to write


I did half print/half cursive.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37470 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:19 am to
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The extra step or first step of writing the notes, and rewriting the notes this way helps implant the material in the minds because you're using your hands, with the brain directing the task of writing out the material.


I don't have an issue learning, and I haven't written in cursive since 5th grade (or maybe 6th).
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:25 am to
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my third grader just did cursive writing...Its not dissapearing


Proper spelling is disappearing apparently.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:26 am to
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Last week we signed papers on an investment property. While sitting there signing this giant stack of papers I wondered how in the future people would be able to actually sign official documents without the ability to write in cursive.


Lots of people don't sign with cursive. Do you think it is some requirement or something to do it that way? Use to see it all the time working customer service when more people used checks. My wife's signature I wouldn't consider cursive and it looks a shite ton better than 90% of what I have seen from people. She has very neat handwriting and in an art type profession.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 9:27 am
Posted by KittenKuddler
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:26 am to
A look at OP's signature:

Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13169 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:38 am to
Most people's signature isn't even legible, hence the printed version directly below it on documents.

You literally print and sign most things. So who gives a shite how a person signs their name?
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:42 am to
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While sitting there signing this giant stack of papers I wondered how in the future people would be able to actually sign official documents without the ability to write in cursive.

Uh, there's no rule that says signatures have to be in cursive. You can just write your name. I think teaching cursive is valuable but not for this reason.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:44 am to
Anyone who can't write cursive is white trash.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:52 am to
I had to learn cursive in elementary school, and thought nothing of it at the time. It was just something everyone had to learn at that age. Nowadays I don't think of it as a chore, or waste it time, but like someone mentioned earlier in this thread as a linkage to the past and it did make me feel more mature being able to read and write in cursive. I asked this girl who is 16 if she had to learn cursive, and she said that she didn't. Idk how important learning cursive is for society, but I know the more skills one possesses from a young age the better off they are for adulthood. For the record, this girl also could not spell "fish" when asked, and is a shitty speller overall, with an attitude problem which from what I can tell seems to stem from not being able to accept responsibility for her mistakes. God Bless America.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:02 am to
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Putting pen to paper stimulates the brain like nothing else, even in this age of e-mails, texts and tweets. In fact, learning to write in cursive is shown to improve brain development in the areas of thinking, language and working memory. Cursive handwriting stimulates brain synapses and synchronicity between the left and right hemispheres, something absent from printing and typing.

As a result, the physical act of writing in cursive leads to increased comprehension and participation. Interestingly, a few years ago, the College Board found that students who wrote in cursive for the essay portion of the SAT scored slightly higher than those who printed, which experts believe is because the speed and efficiency of writing in cursive allowed the students to focus on the content of their essays.

With all this said, does cursive need to be fancy with slants, loops and curls? Absolutely not! The emphasis should be on simplicity and function when teaching children cursive.
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:16 am to
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These documents wouldn't be hand written today.


You're right, they would be emailed and cc'ed to England.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:16 am to
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I don't sign my name in cursive.


My sig used to be printed. The State of Miz wouldn't accept it, told me it had to be cursive. I started scribbling some shite that my kids call B squiggly line C squiggly line and all is well.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:23 am to
Yes.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:25 am to
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In fact, learning to write in cursive is shown to improve brain development in the areas of thinking, language and working memory. Cursive handwriting stimulates brain synapses and synchronicity between the left and right hemispheres, something absent from printing and typing.
Well stating something as a scientific fact, regardless if it's an op-ed should require some evidence, which the author provided failed to provide. That's pretty hackish of that occupational therapist to not provide a link or reference.

This is especially true since some of what she is stating is not really consistent with the research on brain development
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Interestingly, a few years ago, the College Board found that students who wrote in cursive for the essay portion of the SAT scored slightly higher than those who printed, which experts believe is because the speed and efficiency of writing in cursive allowed the students to focus on the content of their essays.
And interestingly there is this new thing called computers that people can use to write even faster, and since the essay on the SAT is no longer required, it's a moot point anyways.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 10:28 am
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:57 am to
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Computers kill your argument.



Is this your rebuttal?


Please make a better argument.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:06 am to
Learning cursive writing provides benefits that have nothing to do with if it is ever used or not. Learning this type of skill at that age helps develop fine motor skills and will contribute to developing neural pathways that will be beneficial later in other subjects. It works the same as learning to play piano or another instrument can improve performance in math. If the criteria for inclusion in a curriculum is whether the material will ever be used in later life then we should probably discontinue a lot of other subjects such as music and languages other than English and Spanish.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:17 am to
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Learning this type of skill at that age helps develop fine motor skills and will contribute to developing neural pathways that will be beneficial later in other subjects.
And these can be developed through more functional tasks. Besides the fine-motor development, the positive effects on brain development seems be way overstated.
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If the criteria for inclusion in a curriculum is whether the material will ever be used in later life then we should probably discontinue a lot of other subjects such as music and languages other than English and Spanish.
HMMMM. I can look down the page and see a music board. I can go to almost any University and see people majoring in music. People enjoy music; it has intrinsic value.

On the other hand, cursive is a tool to communicate through writing, which has been offset by the legibility and efficiency that technology can offer. Except for a few people, cursive does not hold much intrinsic value.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 11:23 am
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