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re: Cursive Writing, Should this be mandated in elementary school?
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:20 pm to retired trucker
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:20 pm to retired trucker
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So, all your LEGAL DOX, you just print your name?
On legal documents, like contracts and legal tender, I stylize my name with print letters. There is no legal course for cursive lettering in a signature.
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:24 pm to WHS
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I teach 12th grade World History which is required for kids going to college (core 4) and none of them can right in cursive. It is taught in 2nd and 3rd grades and then its never looked at again.
But can they write in cursive??
Just screwing around. I am not arguing for or against cursive in my first post. Merely saying that it's a stupid argument that they "already have too much to learn". Because that is bullshite. Also, what happens when a student has to read a letter from someone written in cursive? The writing style does still exist even if it is rare. I think just dropping it is a bigger decision than just saying, "we type all the time anyway".
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:29 pm to WHS
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well you do have to sign in cursive when buying a car etc
Where is it stated that you have to sing in cursive? I just bought a car not 2 months ago. The forms did not say "Signature (in cursive)". It only says "Signature". My signature is nowhere near what any taught cursive looks like.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:30 pm to Boudreaux35
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sing in cursive
How do you do that?
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:32 pm to The First Cut
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Engineering students don't learn to use a slide rule anymore either. Times change
Correct, and then they also teach you "lettering" skills which consist of writing/printing in capital letters. It is much easier to read.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:34 pm to dartman
Nope it isn't needed except for your signature.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:36 pm to Boudreaux35
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Correct, and then they also teach you "lettering" skills
Do they even still teach this? Drafters don't study lettering anymore - it's straight to CAD. It's not like the 80s and 90s when you learned the board first and then CAD.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:37 pm to rantfan
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Nope it isn't needed except for your signature.
Where does anything say that a signature must include script lettering? If it did, most of the script signatures would be invalid anyway.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:44 pm to Pectus
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Anyone that wants to challenge me on why cursive is important can. You've seen some of my arguments. Can't wait to hear a counter-argument.
The Freedom on Information Act has recently revealed the Big Geology Industry has been lobbying government to brainwash our youth into learning cursive primarily to hide the fact that their operatives don't know how to spell the scientific names of minerals.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 12:53 pm to The First Cut
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Where does anything say that a signature must include script lettering? If it did, most of the script signatures would be invalid anyway.
Of course it doesn't, you can make your signature more unique using cursive. You're just being obtuse. I said it!!
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:16 pm to rantfan
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Of course it doesn't, you can make your signature more unique using cursive. You're just being obtuse. I said it!!
I've printed my name on checks and contracts for over 20 years...
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:25 pm to The First Cut
That just isn't right man, i much rather write in print but not my signature. I sign paperwork all day. No way I would print my signature, I would need a stamp.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:35 pm to The First Cut
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Do they even still teach this? Drafters don't study lettering anymore
Not sure, but they should. Drafters aren't the only ones who write. Looking at some calculation books I've reviewed in the recent years, I would have to guess they don't. fricking shame.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:36 pm to The First Cut
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sing in cursive
How do you do that?
No idea. Maybe that's why they don't ask you to do it. :)
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:38 pm to retired trucker
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So, all your LEGAL DOX, you just print your name?
I scribble something illegible
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:43 pm to Pectus
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I have cursive to thank for being able to write legibly.
I guess the educational system should look at your anecdote and base educational requirements around that? Plenty of people can write legibly in print.
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I also have cursive to thank for being able to write quickly. If I didn't know cursive I couldn't take the notes I do at the speed I do. I write a blend of print and cursive. I know which letters can be linked with other letters in the most efficient way.
I can type on a computer faster than you can write
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One good, language-based effect of this type of writing is you intimately know, from practice writing cursive, if you are misspelling a word -- if the tails of letters have to do weird things to link a whole word together, then you are on the wrong track, bub!
Spell-check.
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I think that is a very good tool for students starting out.
:CSB:
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:43 pm to retired trucker
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So, all your LEGAL DOX, you just print your name?
I do, a person's signature does not have to be cursive, it could be printed letters, a series of Xs and Os, or any unique identifying symbol or mark you want to dream up.
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"In the absence of a statutory prohibition, an individual can use any character, symbol, figure, or designation he wishes to adopt as a signature, and if he uses it as a substitute for his name, he is bound by it. A signature might also be adequate to validate an instrument even if it is virtually illegible. The entire name does not have to be written, and the inclusion of a middle name is not significant."
Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:47 pm to EA6B
Everything is going towards using your finger print rather than a signature anyway. Cursive is as it should be dead or dying.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:04 pm to dartman
I would like to see it continue. If early handwriting is taught using D'Nealian printing rather than traditional block manuscript, the transition to cursive is very easy and doesn't take long to master. It is also good for fine motor skill development.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:37 pm to dartman
I remember all the old hags that I would never have thought to bang tell me you had to learn it. You will have to write all your papers in cursive they would say. Then I get older and teachers wanted everything typed.
Was worthless.
Was worthless.
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