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re: Cursive Writing, Should this be mandated in elementary school?
Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:52 pm to ConfusedHawgInMO
Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:52 pm to ConfusedHawgInMO
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It is about as useful as calligraphy or needle point, but no need for a mandate.
Steve Jobs found calligraphy quite useful.
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“Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn’t have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and sans-serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can’t capture, and I found it fascinating.
“None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But 10 years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, it’s likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later.”
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:42 pm to EA6B
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Macintosh computer
Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:33 pm to Gaston
No need for it anymore. Illiterate people can sign their name with an X. My signature is not legible anyway. You can only make out about 3 letters in my entire name. I only write in print and and anyone can read it.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 10:59 pm to Murtown
Correct. Anytime I read something in print that was written by an adult, I immediately think they are both lazy and low IQ.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:07 pm to Dick Leverage
Only people I know that write in cursive are women. You a woman Dick?
Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:22 pm to saintsfan1977
No sir. I am a 46 year old male. I would venture to say that most men my age write in cursive because that is how we were taught to write. Writing in print is awkward as there is no constant flow. Cursive is much quicker and a much more efficient writing style. Of course, that is why cursive became the professional method of writing a few centuries ago. Learned and professional men of the merchant class and aristocracy utilized cursive for its efficiency in business and its professional look. A man's handwriting skill revealed a lot about his station in life. Perhaps it is not relevant today ; However, I still equate the use of print with laziness and low IQ. Sorry if it upsets anyone but Dick Leverage doesn't give a frick if it does.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:30 pm to dartman
Is the constitution in cursive? What about the declaration of independence? What about the Magna Carta?
Posted on 4/25/16 at 11:57 pm to Dick Leverage
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Writing in print is awkward as there is no constant flow. Cursive is much quicker and a much more efficient writing style. However, I still equate the use of print with laziness
It takes more work to write in print so I wouldnt say its lazy. I can write quick in cursive but Im so used to writing in print that I cant go back. It would feel awkward. I havent written in cursive since high school over 20 years ago.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:19 am to dartman
Its a total waste of time
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:37 am to Pectus
I never write in cursive, save to sign, and I think it's pointless.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 5:40 am to KG6
Total waste of time
Posted on 4/26/16 at 5:56 am to Dick Leverage
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No sir. I am a 46 year old male. I would venture to say that most men my age write in cursive because that is how we were taught to write. Writing in print is awkward as there is no constant flow. Cursive is much quicker and a much more efficient writing style. Of course, that is why cursive became the professional method of writing a few centuries ago. Learned and professional men of the merchant class and aristocracy utilized cursive for its efficiency in business and its professional look. A man's handwriting skill revealed a lot about his station in life. Perhaps it is not relevant today ; However, I still equate the use of print with laziness and low IQ. Sorry if it upsets anyone but Dick Leverage doesn't give a frick if it does.
Cursive writing looks messy, on the occasion when it's neat it looks feminine.The way a person writes doesn't have anything to do with IQ. The substance of the writing does. The easy way to look for someone with a low IQ is when the person starts deflecting the subject at hand by throwing personal attacks. Does that sound familiar, Dick. This country's founding fathers wrote in cursive and they also wore wigs. There is a reason things change as time rolls on.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 6:02 am
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:14 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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I had a teacher tell me cursive is no longer necessary due to the easy access to computers. Cursive was the professional way to compose a document, but now that everyone has access to a computer there is no need for cursive.
But when Isis hacks our grid how are we going to create documents?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:08 am to dartman
I never got good at writing in print because it always felt like more work on my hand having to start and stop so much. I can't write nearly as quickly in print with most letters/combinations of letters so my writing is probably 70/30 cursive to print. I don't write those ridiculous capital cursive letters.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:08 am to Martini
My first reaction when I heard of this trend was the typical older person knee jerk of "That's crazy."
Then I realized that times change. Schools used to require instruction in Latin, and kids had to read the "classics" of Cicero, Plato, Aristotle, etc. That sort of thing may be taught in bits or electives, but it is no longer a main part of the curriculum. Times changed, and those were no longer deemed essential.
Heck, typing was a high school class not long ago. Now kids can type by the time they talk. Schools also taught shorthand and "business machines" (adding machines and the like) for the girls as recently as the 80s.
I think society will manage without cursive writing. It may come in handy on occasion for the few who know it, like shorthand does now, but the kids will be alright.
Then I realized that times change. Schools used to require instruction in Latin, and kids had to read the "classics" of Cicero, Plato, Aristotle, etc. That sort of thing may be taught in bits or electives, but it is no longer a main part of the curriculum. Times changed, and those were no longer deemed essential.
Heck, typing was a high school class not long ago. Now kids can type by the time they talk. Schools also taught shorthand and "business machines" (adding machines and the like) for the girls as recently as the 80s.
I think society will manage without cursive writing. It may come in handy on occasion for the few who know it, like shorthand does now, but the kids will be alright.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:20 am to EA6B
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Steve Jobs found calligraphy quite useful.
Well he also helped bring different fonts to computers. Now that we have plenty of professional and artistic fonts, we don't need anymore yahoos making comic sans like fonts.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:35 am to Pectus
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Anyone that wants to challenge me on why cursive is important can.
Reading historical documents. Asking a lot of kids today to read one of these, which are mostly written in cursive, is like asking them to read Arabic. Writing cursive also puts less stress on the joints of the hand and wrist.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/26/16 at 8:39 am to rantfan
Nah. The guy who responded to you stated correctly that writing in print is harder. He said that makes writing in print the opposite of lazy.
But he is incorrect. The laziness factor is that a person would spend a lifetime writing in a manner that is more tedious and less efficient instead of taking the initiative to practice a style of writing that can be learned in a few weeks. The initial mastering of cursive writing is a basic skill that even the dumbest of the dumb learned in the past. It is pure laziness and apathy to not master a skill that will make the process of writing more efficient for the entirety of ones life.
Big bubble cursive looks feminine and is almost exclusive to females. There is a noticeable difference between legible men's cursive and legible female cursive. Print almost always looks messy whether written by a man or a woman. It usually looks like the scribbling of a pre teen.
But he is incorrect. The laziness factor is that a person would spend a lifetime writing in a manner that is more tedious and less efficient instead of taking the initiative to practice a style of writing that can be learned in a few weeks. The initial mastering of cursive writing is a basic skill that even the dumbest of the dumb learned in the past. It is pure laziness and apathy to not master a skill that will make the process of writing more efficient for the entirety of ones life.
Big bubble cursive looks feminine and is almost exclusive to females. There is a noticeable difference between legible men's cursive and legible female cursive. Print almost always looks messy whether written by a man or a woman. It usually looks like the scribbling of a pre teen.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 9:58 am to Dick Leverage
Lol being able to write in cursive is a skill 
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:11 am to rantfan
Apparently it is a skill you can't perform. Sorry you are lazy or dumb....or both.
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