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re: Couple shuts off electricity, uses 0 Kw...gets $115 bill from Entergy
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:43 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:43 pm to GumboPot
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No.
I'm pretty sure shutting the main breaker off does not mean canceling service. Entergy smooths their bills based on historical electricity consumption.
bullshite they do.
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:02 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Also worth thinking about, that's their GAAP bottom line after financial engineeringquote:
No its not
I've done work for power companies and their people work very easy days, drive very nice trucks, and have incredible benefits.quote:
Not unique to power companies
Your village called, their idiot is missing.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:11 pm to goofball
I have a meter on a pole in my backyard that used to be for a shop that's not there anymore. It doesn't have a single thing connected to it but I never cancelled the service. I've been paying about $15 a month for a couple years, most of which is a street light charge but I also pay that charge on my house bill, this pole is behind my house.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:25 pm to Dicky
The people making all the profit with zero risk and can pretty much decide for themselves(with a little help from the commissioner) how much money they want to make.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How much more does it cost to bury a power cable to a house vs a cable line?
About 6X more. Could be 10X in a union area.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:50 pm to goofball
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As they should. Entergy absolutely sucks as an organization.
They charge outrageous fees and never seem to upgrade and invest in their own infrastructure, which ends up breaking down every time there's even a minor storm or incident.
Right. This is the problem. All these fees don't go to upgrades.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:59 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:03 pm to goofball
Entergy and got a lot of information. 1st - if you go back to the old meter they will charge you a $14 reader fee each month. 2nd - only Louisiana charges a fuel fee and storm restoration fee. 3rd - the agency that is over this is the Louisiana Public Service Commission and their numbers are 225-342-4404, 225-342-4999, 800-256-2397 and fax 225-342-2831. This is the first place to start pushing to have fees like the fuel and storm removed. Also, being that Entergy is a state sanctioned monopoly means that it is overseen by government regulators. There comes a time when if you want change you might have to be part of the change. Make your calls, give the numbers to others so we can get more calls ot that can lead to changes in what is allowed to be done to Louisiana residents.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:16 pm to upgrayedd
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Isn't that what they pretty much did?
No. Turning your power off at the breaker box isn't the same as cancelling the service.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:22 pm to goofball
Understand it cost money to provide service. I also want to be able to choose a provider. No competition is never good for the consumer, in a free market.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:26 pm to goofball
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they'd used precisely 0 kilowatts of energy for the month of June.
Billing periods don't run from the first to the end of the month. The June bill probably included a portion of May.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:45 pm to CarrolltonTiger
By that rationale then the minimum for every energy customer should be 115.00 a month then start charging for kw usage. I call bull shite I know for a fact that entergy bills area lot less or the city council meeting would be over run and the council would have entergy in the next day. The culture of New orleans does not lead to certain groups paying full price.
I wonder if it's done by neighborhood or zip code
I wonder if it's done by neighborhood or zip code
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:05 pm to bulldog95
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Entergy and got a lot of information. 1st - if you go back to the old meter they will charge you a $14 reader fee each month. 2nd - only Louisiana charges a fuel fee and storm restoration fee. 3rd - the agency that is over this is the Louisiana Public Service Commission and their numbers are 225-342-4404, 225-342-4999, 800-256-2397 and fax 225-342-2831. This is the first place to start pushing to have fees like the fuel and storm removed. Also, being that Entergy is a state sanctioned monopoly means that it is overseen by government regulators. There comes a time when if you want change you might have to be part of the change. Make your calls, give the numbers to others so we can get more calls ot that can lead to changes in what is allowed to be done to Louisiana residents.
Every jurisdiction has a fuel fee. Certain jurisdictions have storm charges that are still paying storm costs - Texas and New Orleans being the others.
You all really don’t know how public utilities work - it’s incredible.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:16 pm to bulldog95
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Louisiana Public Service Commission and their numbers
I called and made several complaints when they changed me over to the new meter. The month they changed my meter my account doubled from the month before and the month after. It was double from the same month from the year before. Entergy claimed they didn’t charge for the installation of the new meter.
Told all of this to the public commission guy and said scientifically this was not possible. His only response was that they are investigating it and it may take up to two years to complete. They are completely worthless. I told him I’m voting for whoever runs against his boss next election.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:42 pm to WhiteMandingo
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By that rationale then the minimum for every energy customer should be 115.00 a month then start charging for kw usage.
The bill referenced in OP is for a business account. Business accounts are billed differently than residential accounts. Residential accounts are almost entirely usage based. Commercial and industrial accounts have a much larger fixed-fee portion.
Additionally, there is a component of commercial/industrial bills called the “demand charge” that is based on peak usage (over a period of 30 minutes to 1 hour) and is then collected over the next 12 month period. As I understand it, the idea is that steady and consistent usage costs less than peak usage.
So let’s say one business uses 15,000 kWh in a month, but their instantaneous usage is basically constant over that period - 500 kWh per day, with no peaks, every day. Meanwhile, another business uses 15,000 kWh in a month as well but it’s all in a single day.
The business with steady usage doesn’t put as much strain on the grid as the instantaneous load is smaller. Additionally, they aren’t contributing to any demand swings. The business that uses the power all in one day creates considerable strain on the grid. Their instantaneous load is WAY larger. This means the transmission and distribution lines have to be larger in order to accommodate that load. Further, they have created a demand swing that could require changes to the upstream generation to keep up.
It might sound silly when talking about one or two customers but when you talk about the entire grid it starts to matter. It’s cheaper (per kWh supplied) to provide power to customers with steady, continuous usage. The demand charge is basically a tool to ensure that is reflected in the billing. But it only applies to commercial and industrial customers.
TL;DR - it’s pointless to compare the situation referenced in OP to anyone’s residential bill as the rate structure is much different.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:44 pm to quicklube
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Understand it cost money to provide service. I also want to be able to choose a provider. No competition is never good for the consumer, in a free market.
You want to be able to choose a grid operator? Sounds like a clusterfrick.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:57 pm to lostinbr
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TL;DR - it’s pointless to compare the situation referenced in OP to anyone’s residential bill as the rate structure is much different.
Hell of a post. If only the journalist writing this piece had done her job and provided this relevant context.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 8:05 pm to lostinbr
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TL;DR - it’s pointless to compare the situation referenced in OP to anyone’s residential bill as the rate structure is much different.
Ding ding ding
Posted on 7/12/22 at 8:35 pm to goofball
They need to see if they can put a magnet in their meter. The newer ones you can't but ive "heard" magnets can slow down the old meters. You just have to remove it the day you get your bill because, at least in my area, within 3 days of getting your bill they read the meters for the past month.
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