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re: Couple Kicked Off Plane for Ignoring In-Flight Safety Briefing

Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:41 am to
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:41 am to
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If they tell me to take my pants off and I refuse, I can be kicked off? Now obviously that's an absurd hyperbolic example, but petty shite could definitely happen here.

As dumb as it is, that is an interesting question. SO let me go down this thought hole with you. First off, the Captain has ABSOLUTE authority over his aircraft, so let's assume (as was likely) that all of this was handled by the Captain.

But let's go further, you keep your pants on... the Captain comes to your seat and hands you his escape hatchet and commands you to bury it in the head of the passenger next to you.

You refuse. Ok, so that was clearly an unlawful order, so you are in the right.

BUT, the Captain has absolute authority over his aircraft, so what would happen is he would lawfully have you removed, and then he would be summarily fired (and possibly charged) for such an unlawful command.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7444 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Action A and B are the exact same


Except they're not. In on instance you are not required to do something, in the other you are.

There is no statute requiring people to pay attention to the safety demonstration. There is a statute requiring passengers to obey crew-member instructions.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

There is a statute requiring passengers to obey crew-member instructions.


But the instructed action isn't required. In the absence of a regulation requiring it, the instruction carries no weight.

It's a slippery slope when you say you have to obey whatever they tell you to do, hence my absurd pants off scenario. It just seems like circular logic or like when a parent says "because I said so"
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45507 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:13 pm to
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the woman put her fingers in her ears.


That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76135 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
Anti-vaxxers are cut out of the same bolt as those two arse clowns.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:19 pm to
I've ignored every brief ever.

Could have been me.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:23 pm to
Man, you sure went full LNCHBOX in this thread.

Never go full LNCHBOX.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:25 pm to
It may have been execssive to eject the passengers, but when you purchase a ticket, you also agree to comply to the terms and conditions of their services. So, I don’t really feel sorry for the couple.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:29 pm to
I was lnch before lnch.

But I'm not really attached to this. It's just interesting to think about.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36799 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:31 pm to
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A few seconds of chaos or inaction would likely mean more injuries and fatalities in a serious incident.



Do you think the average person is going to do any of the shite that is asked of them in a plane crash?

In the unlikely event that we survive impact, Steve listening to his headphones during the instruction probably isn’t going to make much of a difference
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71821 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:34 pm to
The safety video offers no useful instructions for emergency exit passengers.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40509 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:35 pm to
Good

There needs to be more accountability for people guilty of general rudeness/being fricking dickheads
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135024 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:38 pm to
How many times must one listen to the safety briefing before you comprehend it?

What level of attention is required to be paid?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82334 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:40 pm to
Sounds like they played stupid games.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71821 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:42 pm to
Could you imagine being forced to listen to how to behave during a shark attack before you could swim in the ocean? Every single time?

Why not a pop quiz on the proper way to fall to your death after a safety belt failure before riding a rollercoaster?

Just tell us not to panic that the oxygen bag might not inflate while we read our Cosmo and get on with the show.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Do you think the average person is going to do any of the shite that is asked of them in a plane crash?

If you were asking me about the average person in front of me or behind me in line at the grocery store, you'd have a better point.

However, there is a small "uptick" in intellect (again, I said small) for airline passengers. And a larger uptick in intellect (likely, at least) for those who skillfully navigate their way to an exit row.

So yes, I think the average person in an exit row would do a decent job, IF they paid attention to, AND remembered the instructions given. I'd break it down as such:
20% would do an exemplary job
45% would do a decent to good job
35% would suck and/or contribute to fiery deaths of passengers

Also, it is worth noting that in SOME incidents, the crew would have time to RE-BRIEF the exit row folks of what was impending, and at that point, I'd put have far more confidence in their actions.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:45 pm to
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However, there is a small "uptick" in intellect (again, I said small) for airline passengers. And a larger uptick in intellect (likely, at least) for those who skillfully navigate their way to an exit row.


What?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36799 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:46 pm to
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However, there is a small "uptick" in intellect (again, I said small) for airline passengers. And a larger uptick in intellect (likely, at least) for those who skillfully navigate their way to an exit row.




You think people are smarter because they can afford a Southwest “wanna get away?” fare? Yikes
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