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Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:18 pm to PearlJam
Ask Will Smith what happens when a vaccine is rushed into place.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:22 pm to SidetrackSilvera
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hope it's as effective as the flu vaccine. We don't have to worry about the flu anymore, that I can tell you.
this is such an ignorant statement
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:22 pm to TJG210
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I’ve pondered how much resistance people will put up to getting it, and what type of government coercion there will be to get it.
My likelihood of getting it will be inversely related to the amount of governmental coercion
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:25 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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They've been working on an HIV vaccine for over 30 years.
Corona doesn’t work via slow infection that writes itself into your DNA.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:35 pm to Volvagia
I get that. HIV was a bad one to use.
I just have my doubts we'll be seeing an available COVID 19 vaccine any time soon, and I wouldn't be surprised if we never get one.
This thing will probably peter out over the next few weeks/months and funding will dry up when the threat lessens.
I just have my doubts we'll be seeing an available COVID 19 vaccine any time soon, and I wouldn't be surprised if we never get one.
This thing will probably peter out over the next few weeks/months and funding will dry up when the threat lessens.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:48 pm to JohnnyKilroy
It seems like all experts across the spectrum from this is nothing to we are all going to die do not believe this will peter out.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:58 pm to TrimTab
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You didn't hear the news? TulaneLSU is working on it. Friend, it will be great. I'm first in line.
Let's slow down here. The mice didn't do so well.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:59 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I just have my doubts we'll be seeing an available COVID 19 vaccine any time soon, and I wouldn't be surprised if we never get one.
There has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus. Oxford University is most likely posturing for an infusion of British taxpayer money. Oxford is no different than AAU universities in the US. They make big promises to get funding and then depend upon the short memories of taxpayers to avoid accountability for their absent ROI.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:17 am to RLDSC FAN
In other news, you COULD win the lottery next week.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:27 am to Kentucker
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There has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus.
Because making a vaccine in the past wasn’t worth the financial investment.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:33 am to Dizz
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Because making a vaccine in the past wasn’t worth the financial investment.
Considering that any vaccine for this will piggyback on largely underfunded and nearly abandoned research on vaccines for past corona viruses, it was, in retrospect, worth trillions.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:35 am to Dizz
quote:SARS and MERS are somewhat related to Covid 19. When it became apparent they didn't need a vaccine for either they shelved the research but not before many researchers saved the work they did in deep freeze. They can use this prior work as a starting point to create a vaccine for Covid 19 shaving off months by not having to start at square one.
I have heard numerous people on tv say that neither SARS or MERS became wide spread enough to warrant the cost associated with developing a vaccine. Apparently all of the work was shelved when the viruses disappeared.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:42 am to RLDSC FAN
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that she is “80% confident” the vaccine would work
She'll fit in on the Coaching Changes Board next offseason
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:45 am to BamaHater
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When it became apparent they didn't need a vaccine for either they shelved the research but not before many researchers saved the work they did in deep freeze.
We're fricked if Entergy is their energy provider.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:44 am to RLDSC FAN
I still don’t understand the 12-18 month timeline. Anything can be sped up. After we printed the $2 trillion, instead of sending everybody $1200, we should have sent everybody $600 and said here’s one trillion dollars for whoever figures this out first, and still meets all criteria that a vaccine should. I guarantee we’d have it by the 4th of July at the latest.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:48 am to SidetrackSilvera
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I hope it's as effective as the flu vaccine.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:39 am to CaptSpaulding
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Anything can be sped up.
You can’t speed up clinical trials no matter how much money you have.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:55 am to CaptSpaulding
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I still don’t understand the 12-18 month timeline. Anything can be sped up.
Fauci has been hinting at a Fall vaccine. He also said we are going to mass produce all the viable candidates. They will be starting some of the large scale trials in May. If successful, that could mean an October/November Vaccine. Fauci said in an interview this week that he potentially sees a return to normality by November. He has also said we won't return to normal until we have a widely available vaccine.
China on the other hand is testing a vaccine on political prisoners now and will likely have a vaccine this summer that they will push out the to the developing world in turn for resource rights, allegiance, and spreading that the US caused coronavirus. I would not be surprised if the UN tried to order us to pay damages to the rest of the world.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 9:32 am to JohnnyKilroy
Started more than a few years ago. First with SARS starting in 2002 and MERS in 2012. It got pushed off once threat didn't materialize in US or across globe. It wasn't just US. SARS supposedly had some testing with humans done including in China, but just not full range of human testing & trials before it got stockpiled.
I eeread some saved articles from back in January and forgot how they mentioned things like 1st patient identified on Dec 31 and called it Wuhan in articles and by doctors when 1st attempt at a name didn't take off - 2019-nCoV.
Jan 31, 2020
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-why-it-takes-at-least-a-year-to-make-a-vaccine.html
Some tried again including 2011 & 2017
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I eeread some saved articles from back in January and forgot how they mentioned things like 1st patient identified on Dec 31 and called it Wuhan in articles and by doctors when 1st attempt at a name didn't take off - 2019-nCoV.
Jan 31, 2020
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Researchers will need to work fast. Since the first patient was identified in Wuhan on Dec. 31, the number of coronavirus cases has mushroomed to nearly 10,000 in mainland China alone as of Friday morning, up from roughly 800 the week before. While the new virus appears to be less deadly than the 2003 SARS outbreak, which sickened 8,098 people and killed almost 800, it is spreading significantly faster.
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said Dr. Maria Bottazzi, co-director of Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development. “In the coronavirus — both the original SARS virus and Wuhan virus — it’s called the receptor-binding domain of the spike protein,” she said. “We, therefore, [would] use that as our ideal vaccine candidate.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-why-it-takes-at-least-a-year-to-make-a-vaccine.html
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It took drugmakers more than a year to create a potential vaccine for the SARS epidemic, which was identified in November 2002 and killed nearly 800 people worldwide. By the time one was ready for human trials, the virus was pretty well contained. Since 2004, there have not been any known reported cases of SARS, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Some tried again including 2011 & 2017
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Hotez said he ran into a funding roadblock when developing a vaccine candidate for SARS in 2011. The level of investor interest had been “remarkably little,” he recalled, because the SARS epidemic was no longer a huge problem. This is an issue with the system, he said.
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The reported toll of 2019-nCoV—more plainly known as the Wuhan virus, after the city where it was first discovered last December—continues to climb...
...In trials with mice, the team’s vaccine appeared highly effective at preventing any signs of lasting infection or illness from SARS. By 2017, they published research showing that they could easily and safely mass-produce the vaccine, using yeast to grow it
“That was one of the major frustrations we had. Once SARS was gone, nobody wanted to invest in a SARS vaccine. So for the last three, four years, it’s sat there in a freezer,” Hotez said. “If we had a more anticipatory system, that vaccine would have gone through all the safety testing needed and potentially would have been ready to roll in human trials right from the start.”
Still, Hotez and his team’s work may not have gone to waste. Scientists have shown that the Wuhan virus is very genetically similar to SARS. That closeness should hopefully make any vaccine intended for SARS relatively easy to modify for Wuhan.
how-long-will-it-take-to-develop-a-vaccine-for-the-wuhan-virus
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