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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:07 pm to
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mjax57


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Some of us actually like to have real conversation about what’s going on.




Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9038 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:09 pm to
I’ve gone back and forth on this so much.

I’m now back to “do this for a month or so to try and flatten the curve, but much longer and we need to start getting ok with people dying.”
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:09 pm to
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this seems to delay an eventual spread assuming all other factors equal. Otherwise, it would arguably seem safer to allow the virus to run its course within the community,


They know there will be a drawn out spread and we will still have cases even with extreme quarantine and after.

It’s all about eliminating the peak and not getting stuck in a mess like Italy. Yes, you can argue the economics aren’t worth it but that would be a tough position to take if you were working in one of those overloaded ICUs.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:10 pm to
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I’ve gone back and forth on this so much.

I’m now back to “do this for a month or so to try and flatten the curve, but much longer and we need to start getting ok with people dying.”


Fair
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88020 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:11 pm to
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we need to start getting ok with people dying
It’ll have to be normalized like car wrecks, flu, lightning strikes, and heart attacks.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:11 pm to
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I’ve gone back and forth on this so much.

I’m now back to “do this for a month or so to try and flatten the curve, but much longer and we need to start getting ok with people dying.”


Agreed

A month will hopefully avoid peak overburdening and will allow us to begin to see if there might be some natural self-limitation that will help us (heat slowing spread, etc.)
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:12 pm to
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To do a whole thread, copy and paste any page, and then just delete the page number at the end!


Mark Cuban gif:

I'll have to try that on some NSFW threads.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41110 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:13 pm to
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lightning strikes


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130323 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:13 pm to
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If you continue that graph it continues to match very closely. Italy was at 3,800 cases by day 13. We are at 3,500 right now (Day 13 for the US).




1)it’s not Day 13

2) we have 5x the population.

How are numbers for two countries with vastly different populations readily comparable? Shouldn’t we do a graph of infected per population percentage?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:15 pm to
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If you continue that graph it continues to match very closely. Italy was at 3,800 cases by day 13. We are at 3,500 right now (Day 13 for the US).
Confirmed cases means absolutely nothing considering testing procedures vary greatly. Either the US or Italy could increase testing dramatically and the numbers would get out of line.

As it stands, it's just a thing that people noticed that has absolutely nothing to do with how quickly the virus is spreading in the two countries.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33509 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:17 pm to
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John Burn-Murdoch
@jburnmurdoch
NEW: here is today’s update of our coronavirus mortality trajectories tracker

• UK has more deaths at this stage of its outbreak than any other country at the same stage except Spain

• US curve steepens slightly


Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:19 pm to
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2) we have 5x the population.


If you are going to posit that you have to consider populaton density.

US 93 per square mile
Italy 518 per square mile
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88020 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:19 pm to
The vertical axis being non-linear, while making it easier to see because of China, doesn’t do much for visualizing the first 10-15 days.
Posted by Them
Metry
Member since Nov 2008
11377 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:20 pm to
Just heard some intel from my corner of the world.

2 of the doctors at Bozeman Deaconess Hospital here have 16 cases of COVID between the two of them.

City of Bozeman will be shutting down bars and restaurants in some form or fashion starting tonight or tomorrow.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88020 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:20 pm to
Which is another knock on the Italy vs US comparison if anything.
Posted by cbr900racer22
City of Central, LA.
Member since Sep 2009
1413 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:24 pm to
Anyone have the link that shows the CDC confirmed cases in Louisiana? I seen it a while back where some reported but zero confirmed.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:25 pm to
True.

However, it's spreading here at the same rate but there is more distance between us.

As I've said before, watch our dense population centers on the coasts. That will tell the tale.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9038 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:26 pm to
Oh the US’s population density and style of living, particularly in suburbs and in middle America, is unequivocally the biggest thing we have going for us.

Cars and houses v public transit and townhouses/apartments etc.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 5:37 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:30 pm to
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However, it's spreading here at the same rate

How is it the same rate if the populations aren't close to the same size?

Another downvote from some titty baby that cannot handle simple facts
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130323 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:32 pm to
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However, it's spreading here at the same rate but there is more distance between us.



It’s not the same rate though.
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