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Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:27 pm to NYNolaguy1
How about you tell me which data is good. 
The data from China that no one trusts?
South Korea which seems to have controlled the virus?
Italy where the numbers posted here are only from “serious” cases?
The US where it gets overshadowed by politics because people think Trump is trying to hide the truth?
What numbers are bad enough... I mean good enough... for y’all to extrapolate?
The data from China that no one trusts?
South Korea which seems to have controlled the virus?
Italy where the numbers posted here are only from “serious” cases?
The US where it gets overshadowed by politics because people think Trump is trying to hide the truth?
What numbers are bad enough... I mean good enough... for y’all to extrapolate?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:28 pm to Scruffy
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My shifts are always busy. Panic, like we see on here and on the news, worsens it because now any cough, congestion, fever, rash, stubbed toe, or chapped lips now becomes “concern for coronavirus”. I’m not concerned about the virus or seeing those with it. I’m concerned about those who now attribute every symptom to it because we have fed societal panic out of a misguided belief of “being appropriately aware”. It is bull shite.
You aren’t wrong
The problem is how to develop one message that calms hypochondriacs, heightens awareness for the nonchalant, and delivers accurate information to the majority of people who are sane.
It’s an impossible job
I think the idea that people are panicking by discussing the virus and potential outcomes is way overblown
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:30 pm to Scruffy
Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but South Carolina up to 6 cases now
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:30 pm to ell_13
quote:
How about you tell me which data is good.
I wasn't the one to claim they are bad. Can you justify your answer? It doesn't sound like it.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:31 pm to NYNolaguy1
All of it isn’t good enough to extrapolate yet. But that doesn’t stop people from picking and choosing whatever numbers they want so they have something to melt about.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:33 pm to ell_13
South Korea numbers with their widespread testing make most sense to me. And yes they show the lowest mortality of the bunch.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:33 pm to tiger91
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Heard on CNBC NY will close a school for ** 24 hrs ** if a student tests positive. Wth will that help with??
I'm assuming this is a legitimate question.
1. Gives school time to disinfect.
2. Gives time to assess with whom the infected student came in contact. Then inform those students and families.
3. Gives school time to figure out next steps. Close for a week? Move to online learning?
Having a policy in place lets everyone know that the school has a plan. It is comforting to have responses outlined. If anything, I think having a set plan in place would reduce panic, not increase it.
When I was a kid, we had a fire plan in place. We never had a fire, but I can still tell you what the plan was.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:35 pm to ell_13
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All of it isn’t good enough to extrapolate yet. But that doesn’t stop people from picking and choosing whatever numbers they want so they have something to melt about.
You do realize of all the countries you list as your example pool, the US is doing almost nothing in comparison to isolate the cases or even test. Can you simply admit that?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:35 pm to Sao
What does the flu seasonal distribution for Louisiana look like?
I ask because I grew up in Illinois and the old “well, people don’t go outside during the winter and so they’re closer together” argument for why the flu was prevailing in winter and went away in the summer told a complete story. I’ve since moved to Louisiana.
In Louisiana winter is mild, and followed by crawfish season, Mardi Gras, festival season, etc.... which all place people in close proximity with each other until “deep air conditioning” weather hits and we spend all summer gathered together in our beautifully cold and dry air conditioned environments before moving straight into tailgate season and those massive gatherings.
This is the exact opposite how people assemble in the north (hunker down in November, don’t go out until March and spend all summer outside and away from people). So why would the flu in Louisiana, or the south in general, follow the same pattern as the north?
I ask because I grew up in Illinois and the old “well, people don’t go outside during the winter and so they’re closer together” argument for why the flu was prevailing in winter and went away in the summer told a complete story. I’ve since moved to Louisiana.
In Louisiana winter is mild, and followed by crawfish season, Mardi Gras, festival season, etc.... which all place people in close proximity with each other until “deep air conditioning” weather hits and we spend all summer gathered together in our beautifully cold and dry air conditioned environments before moving straight into tailgate season and those massive gatherings.
This is the exact opposite how people assemble in the north (hunker down in November, don’t go out until March and spend all summer outside and away from people). So why would the flu in Louisiana, or the south in general, follow the same pattern as the north?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:37 pm to ell_13
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But that doesn’t stop people from picking and choosing whatever numbers they want so they have something to melt about.
Personally I think the CDC numbers are good to go on, they match SK's numbers pretty well, but even those will be problematic here.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:39 pm to Sao
quote:I’ll admit it’s not even necessary if the South Korea numbers are accurate.
You do realize of all the countries you list as your example pool, the US is doing almost nothing in comparison to isolate the cases or even test. Can you simply admit that?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
I'm probably going to bail on my April cruise. Not that I don't want to cruise, but I don't want to take a chance on being imprisoned for 2 weeks in a room.
I'm going to wait and see if the cruise line cancels the cruise for a while, I would get essentially double credit if they do.
And, hoping the airlines extend their either refund or reschedule policies as well.
I'm going to wait and see if the cruise line cancels the cruise for a while, I would get essentially double credit if they do.
And, hoping the airlines extend their either refund or reschedule policies as well.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
Louisiana now at all 11 negative tests negative.
Hopefully we will get to do a study to see if beer and crawfish kill Coronavirus
Hopefully we will get to do a study to see if beer and crawfish kill Coronavirus
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:40 pm to chimesstreet
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Heard on CNBC NY will close a school for ** 24 hrs ** if a student tests positive. Wth will that help with??
I'm assuming this is a legitimate question.
Yes it was a legitimate question as in what does 24 hours allow time for? Cleaning? Assessing?? If it's to keep kids away from each other that's not long enough obviously.
I guess I spoke too fast -- 24 hours is a start and always subject to change. No plain was laid out or other comments made -- just closing for 24 hours.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:41 pm to tigerskin
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South Korea numbers with their widespread testing make most sense to me. And yes they show the lowest mortality of the bunch.
As expected. Don’t tell anyone in the Covid-Q thread, though.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:41 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I don't want to take a chance on being imprisoned for 2 weeks in a room.
This would suck.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:42 pm to ell_13
Yeah, I think their numbers (with the correct math) are going to be about right when it is all said and done.
I still don’t want it
I still don’t want it
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:42 pm to ell_13
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South Korea had 7300 cases. Less than 10% needed hospitalization. Just over 50 died.
The mortality rate... 0.08%
Again your math is off...
50/7300=.68%, right in line with what the CDC said, between .1% and 1%.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 12:43 pm
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