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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:26 am to
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:26 am to
Seems like the death:case ratio for Iran is way high vs other countries.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:29 am to
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Iran adds 10 more cases and 5 more deaths


Wtf is going on here... their ratio is epic compared to even China. 50% death ratio there as opposed to 4% in China.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:53 am to
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Other than correlation of travel to Hubei, are there really any unique symptoms that don't apply to other flu viruses before you get to the pneumonia stage?


Nothing that I've read about. Supposedly fewer upper respiratory symptoms vs lower, but the symptoms of most infectious respiratory diseases are variable from patient to patient anyway. As far as I know, even in cases that progress to pneumonia there aren't any pathognomonic (uniquely characteristic) signs associated with Covid-19, although it was interesting that the Chinese were reportedly using "CT scans" to make (more like suggest is my guess) the diagnosis in pneumonia patients.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 9:55 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21552 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:58 am to
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- Iran adds 10 more cases and 5 more deaths


Iran could be a good proxy for what might be happening in some African countries. Iran admitted yesterday that the virus may have been in the country since early February and that it has probably spread to most cities. Iran has a large number of Chinese working in the country and they have recently waived visa requirements resulting in a high volume of other travelers from China.

Now lets shift to Africa,

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China is Africa's leading commercial partner; thus, there are large travel volumes through which severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 could reach the continent.


LINK

The WHO has said that much of Africa lacks the ability to test for the virus but they are working to develop testing capacity. They expect to see an increase in cases once testing comes online.

From the above linked article, the image below shows importation risk and population density.



Also, here is a worldwide population density map.

Posted by habanos
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:03 am to
South Africa is full of Chinese. By the time they start to test it will be far too late to matter.

Pretty impressive how North Korea has no cases with all the Chinese that cross the border daily.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:04 am to
its out of hand now.

too much pretending business trumps safety by world leaders
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3654 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:05 am to
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Wtf is going on here... their ratio is epic compared to even China. 50% death ratio there as opposed to 4% in China.


Probably already an epidemic in Iran. We’re headed to pandemic.
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:08 am to
Iran is probably being honest about the numbers since the do very little trade or tourism.

The #'s coming out of China have been manipulated to a laughable degree.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:08 am to
Maybe they’re straight up killing people with critical cases. It’s Iran after all.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:09 am to
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Probably already an epidemic in Iran. We’re headed to pandemic.


I was just going to ask how much longer is the WHO going to wait before saying this is a pandemic? From the look of it we're already in the early stages.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:14 am to
Is this going to impact travel to Hawaii by May?
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:19 am to
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I was just going to ask how much longer is the WHO going to wait before saying this is a pandemic?


WHO annual budget = 4.4 billion dollars. What have they done so far? Naming it Covid-19. You could’ve hire a high school science team to do that for $500.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:22 am to
The Science class would have named it the Covfefe virus.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 11:38 am to
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As a precautionary act, following a case where 7 #Korean tourists returned from Israel and were tested with #coronavirus, #Israel is forbidding entrance of all tourists coming directly from #Korea as of this evening.


7 Korean tourists tested positive after returning from Israel.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 11:45 am to
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Is this going to impact travel to Hawaii by May?


Conferences in mainland US are reporting a huge uptick in cancellations right now due to fears of virus spreading via airports. Cruise ships are reporting record cancellations too
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 11:53 am to
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I was just going to ask how much longer is the WHO going to wait before saying this is a pandemic? From the look of it we're already in the early stages.

WHO will do it once China gives them the ok
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 12:02 pm to
This dude thinks it leaked from a lab
LINK
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Wtf is going on here... their ratio is epic compared to even China. 50% death ratio there as opposed to 4% in China.


Two possibilities... many more cases than reported or a new strain of the virus (or both). There were some reports of a new strain in Iran.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 12:27 pm to
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And then there is this little-known fact: Some Chinese researchers are in the habit of selling their laboratory animals to street vendors after they have finished experimenting on them.


I thought about Newman and Jurassic Park when I read this.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 12:48 pm to
Now they are bringing infected people to Alabama, what could go wrong?



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CENTRAL ALABAMA
Anniston facility will be used as part of Coronavirus quarantine
Anniston facility will be used as part of Coronavirus quarantine
Coronavirus outbreak promo graphic (Source: Hawaii News Now)
By WBRC Staff | February 22, 2020 at 12:25 PM CST - Updated February 22 at 12:25 PM
ANNISTON, Ala. (WBRC) - The Department of Health and Human Services announced on Saturday that the FEMA Center in Anniston will be used to quarantine some passengers from the Diamond Princess.

Passengers who tested positive, but do not have symptoms, will be quarantined at the FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston, Alabama. If an evacuee becomes seriously ill, they will be transported to predetermined hospital.

Passengers will be kept in a separate area than the training facility.

Here is the full statement:


HHS is taking precautions to protect the health of all Americans from Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). To that end, HHS and FEMA agreed to use a federal facility, the FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston, Alabama, as a place for some of the American passengers from the Diamond Princess to stay. These are passengers whom the federal government evacuated back to the U.S. from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan.

The passengers who will stay at the Center tested positive for COVID-19, although at this time they either do not have symptoms or have mild flu-like symptoms. Any of the evacuees who become seriously ill will be transported to pre-identified hospitals for medical care. Under the HHS-FEMA agreement, the Center for Domestic Preparedness will provide the housing, and HHS will provide basic medical care and all other support services for these returning passengers. Passengers will stay in a separate area from the Center’s training participants and will remain at the Center until they are medically cleared.

The Center has unique facilities and routinely offers week-long, hands-on training for large groups of professionals from federal, state and local emergency management agencies, hospitals, public health agencies, and law enforcement agencies on disaster response.
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