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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 7/21/20 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7601 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 4:23 pm to
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Has anyone seen anything published indicating certain blood types are at a greater risk with Covid 19??
There have been a couple of anecdotal reports from clinicians that people with type O blood are less susceptible and those with type A are more susceptible. After this was reported I ordered a test kit from Amazon. My blood is O positive. A subsequent study found that blood types don't influence the virus at all.

Some studies report that vitamin D sufficiency is important. Another study disagreed.

A French study found that cigarette smokers seldom became infected. Others claim smoking increases the danger.

Early science is fraught with conflict and disagreement.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 5:28 pm to
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Would AIDS patients be a good test of this theory? That should provide low T-cell counts in younger patients (the majority of whom share a passion for either interior design or heroin use in the US, which may provide another avenue to find a statistical correlation).


It’s hard to say. Their immune systems are so dysfunction and they are on antiviral medications already there are a lot of confounding variables.

I don’t think it would tell us a tremendous amount because aids patients can be susceptible to any infection even pathogens that usually don’t cause illness at all.

Someone smarter than me would have to design that study
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 5:35 pm to
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A subsequent study found that blood types don't influence the virus at all.



And it's not settled at all if you start looking.

Blood type may affect COVID-19 outcomes, study shows
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Blood type may play a key role in determining who contracts COVID-19 and how severe the illness becomes, according to a recent report published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM).


People with blood type O more protected against COVID-19 - studies
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WHILE THE answer is not exactly known, Andre Franke, the lead scientist from the study done in Spain and Italy, suggested an answer to The New York Times. He noted that the gene region that codes for blood type is associated with elevated levels of key immune molecules.

Their study included extracting DNA samples from 1,980 COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized for respiratory failure. They scanned the samples using a rapid technique called genotyping, and looked at nearly nine million genetic letters. The researchers then carried out the same experiment on 2,205 blood donors with no evidence of COVID-19. They found that the ill patients shared a number of similar genetic variants compared to those who were not ill.
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Other past research done in 2005 during the 2002 SARS epidemic supports the O blood type protection theory. Research at a Hong Kong hospital analyzed an infected patient who exposed 45 healthcare workers. Of 18 people with type blood O, 8 became infected (44%), compared to the other 27 people having other blood types, of whom 23 contracted the virus (85% – almost twice as much).


COVID and Blood Type:
Study finds no relationship between blood type and severity of COVID-19

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Blood type is not associated with a severe worsening of symptoms in people who have tested positive for COVID-19, report Harvard Medical School researchers based at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Their findings, published in the Annals of Hematology, dispel previous reports that suggested a correlation between certain blood types and COVID-19.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:36 am to
U. of Wisconsin study examining mental health of kids during school closures.

Anxiety reported in 90% of respondents, and depression reported in 68%.

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Of the more than 3000 participants, 65% reported anxiety symptoms, with 25% suffering moderate or severe anxiety.

Using historical data obtained from past research studies, the group determined that the rate of mild to severe depression increased from 31% to 68%. In the past 68% of respondents reported minimal or no depression, compared to just 32% in May of 2020.


Remember, teachers and their unions are telling us their jobs aren't essential and neither is the education of children.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34566 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:59 am to
Lost my 2nd cousin to COVID last night.

He was in his late 60's-early 70's, diabetic and on supplemental oxygen, so multiple co-morbidities. Not that it makes it any better.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:45 am to
Came across this doctor's (also a lawyer) "white paper" on hydroxychloroquine.

Haven't had a chance to read through the whole thing (27 pg PDF), but seems like a pretty good rundown on what went on with the drug.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:22 am to
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Remember, teachers and their unions are telling us their jobs aren't essential and neither is the education of children.


I am hoping the entire public education and university education frauds are completely blown up in all of this.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3577 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:36 am to
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Not that it makes it any better.


Yeah... so sorry for your loss...

Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7601 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:07 am to
Wired.com provides some information that isn't included in pharmaceutical press releases.

Covid-19 Vaccines With ‘Minor Side Effects’ Could Still Be Pretty Bad
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:35 am to
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Around one-third of people vaccinated with the Covid-19 vaccine without acetaminophen experienced moderate or severe chills, fatigue, headache, malaise, and/or feverishness. Close to 10 percent had a fever of at least 100.4 degrees, and just over one-fourth developed moderate or severe muscle aches. That’s a lot, in a young and healthy group of people—and the acetaminophen didn’t help much for most of those problems.


Jesus this generation is so coddled.

Developing, testing, and manufacturing am effective vaccine in less than a year would be one of the greatest medical accomplishments of all time. Not because I think we absolutely need it for this virus, but it is a proof of concept if we are eventually faced with a more deadly virus.

Complaining about some "feverishness" is absurd.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7601 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:16 pm to
We've had no phase 3 trials yet so the full extent of possible adverse reactions isn't clear. The need to take acetaminophen along with the Oxford vaccine is a legitimate concern.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:55 pm to
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The need to take acetaminophen along with the Oxford vaccine is a legitimate concern.


I doubt it. There is no need to take acetaminophen with the vaccine. They just did that to reduce any resulting fever.

You could take no acetaminophen at all or any other antipyretic if you wanted to, it will not change the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1041 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:09 pm to
It does only if the side effects cause people to refuse to take it, sort of like idiots who believe the flu vaccine gives them the flu and therefore they refuse it.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:36 pm to
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It does only if the side effects cause people to refuse to take it, sort of like idiots who believe the flu vaccine gives them the flu and therefore they refuse it.


Valid point.

However we don’t need everyone to take it. If 25% of the population has already had it and 25% will take the vaccine then it’s all but over.

If even just the most susceptible people take the vaccine it’s over.
Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
454 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:24 pm to
There are plenty of legitimate side effects from some vaccines to consider. For instance, I had to get the Typhoid vaccine which was a series of several shots and it made me pretty sick on top of making my arm feel like it was going to fall off. I don't know what caused those things but it "felt like" the flu. I've had plenty of other vaccines that have caused zero side effects. The flu vaccine has never done anything to me.

Every vaccine is a risk/reward decision. I can appreciate those that would be first in line but I'll be holding off for while. Honestly my only motivation for getting it would be not having to worry about getting my parents sick, but I'd prefer to wait and see how it goes first before taking it.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40868 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:40 pm to
Damn man, take the oral typhoid vaccine next time.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4531 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:44 pm to
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Jesus this generation is so coddled. Developing, testing, and manufacturing am effective vaccine in less than a year would be one of the greatest medical accomplishments of all time.


Amen! President Trump was just interviewed by Dr. Siegel this evening and was asked if he would get the vaccination when available? W/o hesitation he said yes, but he rightfully stated that he’s damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t. The media will crucify him for being 1st in line or see we told you so, it’s dangerous, if he refused. Just imagine the uproar from the idiocracy if they were actually like, you know, personally responsible for their own health? What do you mean it’s gonna cost me $100.00 out of pocket & I have to get an IV drip w/ a slight fever. Wish you guys could come up with a vaccine for stupid.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:01 am to
Article concerning infectivity and proteins.

SARS 2.0 survives longer on surfaces when in the presence of proteins; helps prevent drying out of viurs.

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Our data showed that SARS-CoV-2 infectivity was remarkably preserved in the presence of proteins, regardless of the type of surface. A final concentration of 11.4 g/L of proteins, as used in our study, closely mimics that of respiratory fluids, which possess protein concentrations of a similar order of magnitude. However, the respiratory body fluids are complex media including not only proteins, but also enzymes and mucins (present in mucus) that may have a negative effect on virus infectivity.



Hmm...I guess that means that those nasty, reused cloth masks can be harboring huge concentrations of virus.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:24 am to
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Amen! President Trump was just interviewed by Dr. Siegel this evening and was asked if he would get the vaccination when available? W/o hesitation he said yes, but he rightfully stated that he’s damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t. The media will crucify him for being 1st in line or see we told you so, it’s dangerous, if he refused.


Well, Trump won't be President by the time the vaccine is distributed, so his opinion won't matter.
Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
454 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:01 am to
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Damn man, take the oral typhoid vaccine next time.


You don't really have a choice when the military is involved. They did administer that one completely separate from the usual line up of vaccines. Perhaps potential adverse reactions were part of the reason. Who knows.
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