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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:27 am to Scruffy
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:27 am to Scruffy
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Nearly one third of 200 Chelsea residents who gave a drop of blood to researchers on the street this week tested positive for antibodies linked to COVID-19, a startling indication of how widespread infections have been in the densely populated city. Sixty-four residents who had a finger pricked in Bellingham Square on Tuesday and Wednesday had antibodies that the immune system makes to fight off the coronavirus, according to Massachusetts General Hospital physicians who ran the pilot study. The 200 participants generally appeared healthy, but about half told the doctors they had had at least one symptom of COVID-19 in the past four weeks.
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:35 am to Lsut81
*sigh*
The idea that we made extremely poor choices during this pandemic is becoming more and more evident by the day.
The idea that we made extremely poor choices during this pandemic is becoming more and more evident by the day.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:36 am to Scruffy
I don't disagree with the low CFR especially for the younger populations. I haven't been sold on the high percentages of people have already had this. Not that it isn't possible, but the evidence is shaky (although more is coming in on the side that many have had this).
For example the Chelsea study, if you goto the manufacturer's website it says the test can show positive for other coronavirus'. The Stanford study advertised and shows selection bias. I haven't been able to see who makes the test they used.
For example the Chelsea study, if you goto the manufacturer's website it says the test can show positive for other coronavirus'. The Stanford study advertised and shows selection bias. I haven't been able to see who makes the test they used.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:45 am to Scruffy
very true.. sweden managed it the best. Bloomberg article this morning discussing their strategy.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:12 am to biscuitsngravy
IHME projected Tennessee numbers fell off a cliff.
Projected 231 deaths now in total for Tennessee. That first number was 3,422.
More people will die from choking on their food in Tennessee this year than 231.
Projected 231 deaths now in total for Tennessee. That first number was 3,422.
More people will die from choking on their food in Tennessee this year than 231.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:21 am to TheCaterpillar
I have an analogy to COVDI19 and our response to mitigate it.
I compare it to driving. People die by the tens of thousands in vehicles in this country, but we don’t shut down the roads because that would crush the economy. If no one could drive, our country would essentially turn into anarchy.
Instead we mitigate danger by instituting laws such as speed limits, seat belts, air bags, driving tests, elderly don’t drive much, etc. We keep things open and do our best to lower the chance for poor outcomes.
That is how we need to think about this virus. Keep things open, but isolate vulnerable, social distance, wash hands, reduce capacity, restrict large gatherings, etc. At first, we had to shut things down because it was like giving every driver on the road a blindfold. We didn’t know what we were doing and it could've gotten really bad if we didn't. Now we do and we know how to starve this thing and limit poor outcomes without killing our economy further.
TL;DR - we don't shut down driving to save everyone's life because it would kill economy, despite thousands dying on the roads. We do things to mitigate danger like using airbags, seat belts, and speed limits which are analogous to social distancing, hand washing, reducing gatherings, etc.
I compare it to driving. People die by the tens of thousands in vehicles in this country, but we don’t shut down the roads because that would crush the economy. If no one could drive, our country would essentially turn into anarchy.
Instead we mitigate danger by instituting laws such as speed limits, seat belts, air bags, driving tests, elderly don’t drive much, etc. We keep things open and do our best to lower the chance for poor outcomes.
That is how we need to think about this virus. Keep things open, but isolate vulnerable, social distance, wash hands, reduce capacity, restrict large gatherings, etc. At first, we had to shut things down because it was like giving every driver on the road a blindfold. We didn’t know what we were doing and it could've gotten really bad if we didn't. Now we do and we know how to starve this thing and limit poor outcomes without killing our economy further.
TL;DR - we don't shut down driving to save everyone's life because it would kill economy, despite thousands dying on the roads. We do things to mitigate danger like using airbags, seat belts, and speed limits which are analogous to social distancing, hand washing, reducing gatherings, etc.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:27 am to TheCaterpillar
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At that time*
They showed symptoms later on and one was hospitalized.
I wonder if they would have went to hospital without knowing they had it. The anti-placebo effect (I am sure there is a term for it). I wonder how many people go to hospital because they have Covid-19 who otherwise wouldn't have. I bet people even get sicker knowing they have it.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:39 am to lsu13lsu
Interesting. I could see that maybe in some cases. Just mentally allowing your symptoms to feel worse because you know you have it instead of just fighting through it like you would a sinus infection or something like that.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:20 am to TheCaterpillar
Or anxiety leading to higher blood pressure. Many have expressed being anxious and not sleeping for days. Not sleeping leads to higher blood pressure too. So anxiety and lack of sleep. Then this thing appears to thrive with high blood pressure.
This is all coo coo talk. But, just something I have wondered if it is an anti-placebo or self-fulfilling prophecy.
This is all coo coo talk. But, just something I have wondered if it is an anti-placebo or self-fulfilling prophecy.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:27 am to Lsut81
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tested positive for antibodies linked to COVID-19
interesting phrasing instead of just saying "antibodies for COVID19"
I wonder how generic this test was
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:32 am to Tiguar
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interesting phrasing instead of just saying "antibodies for COVID19"
Thats because COVID-19 is the disease caused by the virus. Antibodies wound be for SARS-CoV-2.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:36 am to TheCaterpillar
Same for Alabama. Went from 1700 to 9500 to 5500 to 950 all in span of 2 weeks. Now it’s at 290.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:37 am to Tiguar
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interesting phrasing instead of just saying "antibodies for COVID19"
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The doctors used a diagnostic device made by BioMedomics, of Morrisville, N.C.
BioMedomics Link
From BioMedomics FAQ:
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Positive results may be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.
ETA: They claim 89% Sensitivity and 91% Specificity from the same link.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:41 am to 1BamaRTR
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Same for Alabama. Went from 1700 to 9500 to 5500 to 950 all in span of 2 weeks. Now it’s at 290.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:34 pm to slacker00
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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:37 am to Tiguar
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interesting phrasing instead of just saying "antibodies for COVID19"
quote:
The doctors used a diagnostic device made by BioMedomics, of Morrisville, N.C.
BioMedomics Link
From BioMedomics FAQ:
quote:
Positive results may be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.
So this last part -- does that make the antibody test not usable? If it pics up other coronas how helpful is it really?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:48 pm to TheCaterpillar
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TL;DR - we don't shut down driving to save everyone's life because it would kill economy, despite thousands dying on the roads. We do things to mitigate danger like using airbags, seat belts, and speed limits which are analogous to social distancing, hand washing, reducing gatherings, etc.
Great summary that I agree with. Shutting down temporarily was absolutely the right move. It gave us time to get ahead of this thing without getting overwhelmed. Doctors are learning more and more how to treat this thing. We have adequate supplies. No need for us to be shutdown long term, we don't need to do that to beat this thing.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 1:12 pm to QJenk
quote:Based on current economic releases, that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Shutting down temporarily was absolutely the right move.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 1:53 pm to tiger91
I have heard some talk that antibodies to other coronavirus's could at least be partially effective against the SARS-COV2 virus. I wonder if this is why there is such a discrepancy in how it seems to effect people?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:16 pm to QJenk
Governor Edwards announced today that more medical procedures, doctor visits, and dental visits will be allowed a week from today.
The first crack in the door in Louisiana.
The first crack in the door in Louisiana.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:19 pm to GOP_Tiger
Hold up -- they're talking about procedures that will prevent htings from getting worse -- ent, thyroid, cancer related -- I'm not taking this as all electives at all.
Some older doc is talking about it now.
He's saying it needs to be life threatening to be able to be done. "Time sensitive". Abortions have to be looked at to see if they're time sensitive or not.
Some older doc is talking about it now.
He's saying it needs to be life threatening to be able to be done. "Time sensitive". Abortions have to be looked at to see if they're time sensitive or not.
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