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re: Cop shoots an “aggressive” 10 pound dog on video

Posted on 1/5/19 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

The homeowner was sketchy, to be sure.

Bit it was a fricking Chihuahua. And this low-life, arrogant punk shoots it.

How knuckle-dragging scum like these two pigs end up with badges is beyond me. They both should be fired and charged with a crime.


Agreed
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 2:01 pm to
Actually no. But the knee jerk response brings up a great point.


We have no clue why the cop is there. Or the reason why the filmer was refusing to wish to even speak to the cop.

Was the request unlawful or unreasonable?

If not, then given the fact the cop calmly illustrated his position and explained the consequences (which is likely departmental policy in the situation) of noncompliance in just walking to the curb to talk to him that means the dog’s death is more the owner’s fault than the cop’s.

But we don’t know that.

But I do find it amusing that people react and assume without thinking and feeling the pounds of the dog in question is a more relevant fact about the situation than the cause/build up of the situation itself.
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 2:49 pm to
If you've ever dealt with law enforcement in Arkansas you'll understand why the owner was a dick to them.

Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
748 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 3:36 pm to
Best part of video:
Cop: “Well that’s why your dog got shot”
Homeowner: “That’s not my dog”
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 3:46 pm to
It’s semantics.

It’s a stray he took in and cared for her puppies.

After which she stayed around, and he presumably fed her.

Brought her to the vet too.

Yeah, it’s his dog.

BTW, apparently the cause of the visit was a complaint from a neighbor about the dog in question being allowed to roam free and being “aggressive.”

Cop wanted to talk to the guy about it.

Filmer is filming because he is currently dealing with crap in courts due to previous bad involvement with cops (although apparently the SO of that county are not the best in terms of community PR)

(Also, it’s hilarious that just stating it’s his dog is worthy of a downvote. This place is almost as bad as the poliboard sometimes.)
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10597 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

But I do find it amusing that people react and assume without thinking and feeling the pounds of the dog in question is a more relevant fact about the situation than the cause/build up of the situation itself.


At any point was that cop reasonably threatened for his life? Clearly not, so there is no excuse for him to discharge his weapon. End of discussion.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 4:31 pm to
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At any point was that cop reasonably threatened for his life?


There is nowhere where this is stated as law.

Not to the extent that the officer needs to be in fear for his life to draw a weapon on an animal.

It sucks, but it’s not like he stepped out of his car and executed the animal.

He asked the owner to get the animal under control.

Owner refuses.

He asks the owner to come to the curb.

Owner refuses.

He tells the owner that if he is going to have to approach the house, and if while doing so he is approached by your dogs he will have to shoot them, so will you come to the curb.

Owner refuses again.

Dog gets shot.

Owner:



Make no mistake, it’s fricked up. But considering the owner’s actions and the fact that the cop is there answering a formal complaint about his neighbors being harassed by the free roaming dog (apparently it’s a stray that the guy feeds and cares for, but doesn’t “own” or controll), I can’t help but feel he is just as at fault for the outcome.

Given the lack of corporation, there was no way this ends well.


Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17939 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 4:38 pm to
You have a point

However, shooting a dog because the owner is being a tool is a terrible excuse. At an absolute minimum the cop acted wrecklessly by discharging his firearm without proper cause. He probably could have given the damn thing a dog biscuit and been fine.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39274 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

He probably could have given the damn thing a dog biscuit and been fine.


Or spoken to it nicely and leaned down and petted it?

There are two tools in here taking up for the cop, saying "Dur, well he told the guy he was going to shoot the dog if he didn't dance on out to the road and talk to me."

It's a good thing that he didn't tell him he was going to kill everyone in the neighborhood if he didn't come chat. All those poor people would be dead, and the tools would be saying It was OK because he told the dude he would do it unless he respected their awe thor uh tie.
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10597 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:33 pm to
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Not to the extent that the officer needs to be in fear for his life to draw a weapon on an animal. 
I have no problem with the officer drawing his weapon. However there was no excuse for him to discharge his firearm and shoot that dog. On top of that he carelessly shot it. What type of douche do you have to be to blow a dog's jaw off and then just leave it there? He acted like a punk bitch and shot that dog to prove a point. Total power trip, but what do you expect for some small town sheriff deputy.
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:39 pm to
There's no reason to be so triggered over an obvious post meant to trigger.

Obvious should be obvious.

This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

I have no problem with the officer drawing his weapon. However there was no excuse for him to discharge his firearm and shoot that dog.
No reason to upholster your weapon if you do not plan on shooting. He went way over the line.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119559 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:53 pm to
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No reason to upholster your weapon if you do not plan on shooting. He went way over the line.


Officer in this video had no reason to unholster his weapon. I thought they were taught that the only time to do that was to prepare to use it.

Code should be fired and lose his pension. Absolutely in the wrong. Was the guy being a dick, maybe, I don't know the reason he was there, but the cop is the one who escalated the situation and he should pay the price for his conduct.
Posted by Purple Watermelon
Member since Nov 2018
90 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:20 pm to
He should be fired and he shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. He's a nutcase.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

I don't know the reason he was there


Civil complaint from neighbor that the dog in question was harassing her with aggressive behavior.

Not even saying that tongue in cheek.

Neighbor focused on with the complaint seemed a bit unhinged though
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51916 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Dur, well he told the guy he was going to shoot the dog if he didn't dance on out to the road and talk to me."


Forgot the part where he asked him to restrain/pick up the dog too.

And the part that it was contingent on the dog moving towards him which has already had neighbors reporting being aggressive to them.


quote:

It's a good thing that he didn't tell him he was going to kill everyone in the neighborhood if he didn't come chat. All those poor people would be dead, and the tools would be saying It was OK because he told the dude he would do it unless he respected their awe thor uh tie.


Except that wouldn’t be lawful. Which was part of an earlier statement contingent on it being acceptable or not.

So HOLY HYPERBOLE BATMAN
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Forgot the part where he asked him to restrain/pick up the dog too.

And the part that it was contingent on the dog moving towards him which has already had neighbors reporting being aggressive to them.
He had many ways to resolve this situation. Use of an instrument of deadly force is the last one. He used it first.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21312 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:26 pm to
Who cares what who was acting like. The cop shot a 8lb dog out of spite. There isn’t an excuse for that level of beta move.
Want to talk to someone and they’re not cooperating, be a man, or enforcer in this case, and do your job.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4236 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 10:57 am to
Keenan Wallace, the fierce Super Cop who believed himself to be in grave danger while facing off against Reese's, the less than 10 pound female Chihuahua, has apparently been fired.

Good.

And good riddance for the citizens of Faulkner County. Wallace had no business carrying a gun and a badge as a LEO in their community.

Faulkner County Sheriff fires deputy who shot dog

Arkansas police officer sacked after shooting Chihuahua



Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:15 am to
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Why did the LEO transition to lethal force? What danger was he or a citizen in? They cannot choose to simply use a firearm because they have one issued. That was just crazy.



The cop pulling and discharging his weapon in that situation means he became a lethal threat ...and should have been shot by the homeowner. Good legal shoot
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