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re: Construction Management Salaries
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:34 am to dillpickleLSU
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:34 am to dillpickleLSU
I'm going through the recruiting process right now and market value in the Houston/austin/San Antonio area that I'm looking in is between 60-65k with onsite per diem being about $100/day. Some of these companies will pay you less per diem but in exchange they will pay for a reasonable living situation. This is for commercial gc's. You can probably squeeze a little more out of industrial companies.
Personally I'd take the per diem because I'd be in control of how it's spent.
To compare what your buddy is saying, I'd expect to be making about 75 to 85k after five years in the industry. His numbers seem a little off unless he's talking about his overall taking home (salary,per diem, car allowance, cell phone, bonuses) if you add all that up it gets up there pretty quick.
Personally I'd take the per diem because I'd be in control of how it's spent.
To compare what your buddy is saying, I'd expect to be making about 75 to 85k after five years in the industry. His numbers seem a little off unless he's talking about his overall taking home (salary,per diem, car allowance, cell phone, bonuses) if you add all that up it gets up there pretty quick.
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:42 am to cfa626
Is the company VCC by chance?
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:51 am to 4LSU2
No, its not VCC.
And thanks to everyone for the responses. What y'all mention makes more sense (long hours, sometimes more than just Monday-Friday, etc). He made it sound like its standard 40 hours a week, so either he just doesn't know any better (which he should) or he was exaggerating.
And thanks to everyone for the responses. What y'all mention makes more sense (long hours, sometimes more than just Monday-Friday, etc). He made it sound like its standard 40 hours a week, so either he just doesn't know any better (which he should) or he was exaggerating.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:35 am to cfa626
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He made it sound like its standard 40 hours a week, so either he just doesn't know any better (which he should) or he was exaggerating.
Per diem is not always based on a long hour work week. It really depends on how the contract rates are written.
For example, per diem was paid at $80 a day 7 days a week for one of the projects I was on and the construction schedule was 4x10's (Mon-Thur 10 hours a day). Then the project got behind and they started working more hours but per diem did not change. They did get paid OT rates for the extra work though.
The rates will depend on the contract that was written with the owner. I work in the industrial side (on the owners side) in project controls so I see how these contracts are written and part of my job is to ensure that the contractor's invoices adhere to the contract that was written. That and track their progress/costs.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:50 am to cfa626
I probably get an extra $4k/ month in benefits when I am traveling on top of my salary.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:52 am to cfa626
My sister was construction management before she got into consulting and andbthey pay probably close to 30k a year for flights and living expenses while she is traveling for the project. And salary of 120k. And can live anywhere she wants as long as it's close to a location that has an airport that can get her to the project quickly enough
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:51 am to cfa626
I only have an associates degree in construction management and just made my 6 year mark this week and am 28. For what it's worth, my superior only has a business degree and no degree in construction.
I've made anywhere from $75-$150 per day in per diem depending on job circumstances. I make what I think is a pretty damn good salary for my age plus truck allowance, fuel card, cell phone, computer. I've had job offers from other companies to move out of state with moving expenses covered that I turned down.
Not hear to try to brag...it's possible that he's blowing smoke but it doesn't sound like an unreasonable offer to me given what I have experienced being in the industry. I know that degrees are not top priority at the company I work for.
I've made anywhere from $75-$150 per day in per diem depending on job circumstances. I make what I think is a pretty damn good salary for my age plus truck allowance, fuel card, cell phone, computer. I've had job offers from other companies to move out of state with moving expenses covered that I turned down.
Not hear to try to brag...it's possible that he's blowing smoke but it doesn't sound like an unreasonable offer to me given what I have experienced being in the industry. I know that degrees are not top priority at the company I work for.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:56 am to Mark Makers
Dudes gotta go live in Arkansas... He's getting paid
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:18 am to CE Tiger
I have a bachelor degree in CM and did a project in Arkansas. Per diem was $125 a day 7 days a week. My salary was around $70K a year but I got X1.5 over 40 hours. I worked plenty of OT, I made about $150k a year while I was up there. I also have a gas card and an expense account.
Your buddy probably doesn't realize he is about to work his dick off.
Your buddy probably doesn't realize he is about to work his dick off.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:26 am to cfa626
If the make more than 50 k they're overpaid.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:32 am to cfa626
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every conversation at dinner to bring it back to his job offer, it gets annoying pretty quick.
Yeah, that guy sounds insecure.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:10 pm to cfa626
Getting paid to live out of a suitcase is nothing to be proud of.
Getting paid six figures to live at home is something different.
Most of these companies are going to disguise field positions with titles of Project Manger and such. But, you're a field hand if you live out of a hotel.
I worked offshore 180 days a year when I was 24 and had no kids and it was cool. Now that I have kids there is no way I would do that.
It's funny how the HR saps that get to sleep in their own bed every night want to convince you how great it is to live on the road.
Don't be a sucker.
Getting paid six figures to live at home is something different.
Most of these companies are going to disguise field positions with titles of Project Manger and such. But, you're a field hand if you live out of a hotel.
I worked offshore 180 days a year when I was 24 and had no kids and it was cool. Now that I have kids there is no way I would do that.
It's funny how the HR saps that get to sleep in their own bed every night want to convince you how great it is to live on the road.
Don't be a sucker.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:37 pm to Spankum
Correct my buddy I mentioned averages 12hr days.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:40 pm to AndyCBR
I think it's the 2k for living expenses that confused all of us at dinner. From the way he talks, he will get up and drive from home to his job every morning (planning to buy house 30 mins away) at 8 and drive back home at 5, just like a lot of us. I don't understand why there's extra money for living expenses for that when there's no travel, except his commute since he wants to live in a town 30 mins away.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:41 pm to JasonL79
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For example, per diem was paid at $80 an hour 7 days a week for one of the projects I was on and the construction schedule was 4x10's (Mon-Thur 10 hours a day). Then the project got behind and they started working more hours but per diem did not change. They did get paid OT rates for the extra work though.
You sure it wasn't $80 a day? I've done hundreds of these contracts and we'll only pay $75 per day if the worker travels more yhan 65 miles one way.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 4:22 pm to cfa626
I've got a superintendent right now that makes 100k+ base salary plus about 46k a year in living expenses and per diem. On top of that we buy him a plane ticket every other week to fly back home.
It's not unheard of.
It's not unheard of.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/30/16 at 4:26 pm to cfa626
tell your buddy he'd be better off borrowing 200k and starting his own business
that's what I did and I have a worthless history degree from Loyola
the only way to make real money in construction is to make it for yourself
money is cheap and business is good
that's what I did and I have a worthless history degree from Loyola
the only way to make real money in construction is to make it for yourself
money is cheap and business is good
Posted on 10/30/16 at 4:26 pm to cfa626
It is absolutely possible for him to be making that amount, and no that does not mean he will be working his dick off. I've been in industrial construction for 10 years, worked in 7 ref/chem plants across 4 states, and have received per diem on every single project. Rates have ranged from $100-179 a day. You do what you want with that money. Wanna live in a 5th wheel, apt, house, hotel...doesn't matter, its your money.
I just moved to WA and am receiving $3,750 a month. I work between 45-50 hours a week as a mgr. So no, you don't have to be a field hand to get paid
I just moved to WA and am receiving $3,750 a month. I work between 45-50 hours a week as a mgr. So no, you don't have to be a field hand to get paid
Posted on 10/30/16 at 6:38 pm to double d
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You sure it wasn't $80 a day? I've done hundreds of these contracts and we'll only pay $75 per day if the worker travels more yhan 65 miles one way.
Sorry that was a typo. Meant $80 a day.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 6:50 pm to dafuqusay
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I work between 45-50 hours a week as a mgr. So no, you don't have to be a field hand to get paid
He is referring to a field hand as someone who isn't at home with their family every night. I have done the same as dafuqusay. I did it for a few years and decided that being closer to home making less money meant more to me.
For the OP, your friend is probably in a project controls role. There are plenty of guys in the construction management field that don't deal with construction. He will probably be handling the field accounting and payroll type activities.
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