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re: Commonly held beliefs that you suspect are wrong
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:44 pm to Laugh More
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:44 pm to Laugh More
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This right here proves it by your own words. I CHOSE to do or not do something; it’s really that simple.
Yes, you are choosing but you are not freely choosing. I suspect that you don't make a habit of jumping off tall buildings. You are not "free" to do so. You are bound by your sanity and knowledge. If you are bound by external forces, you really aren't making free choices.
I don't understand why that's so hard for you to grasp.
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:51 pm to weagle1999
Learning a trade is good for young men in this age.
This will further continue the education divide between men and women. A whole generation of men are being pushed into generally low wage, physical labor jobs with very little real education. Been a huge push up create a larger cheaper work force of physical labor to replace immigrants that are being pushed out. Most men will fail miserably working in the trades and will be stuck with little job options
This will further continue the education divide between men and women. A whole generation of men are being pushed into generally low wage, physical labor jobs with very little real education. Been a huge push up create a larger cheaper work force of physical labor to replace immigrants that are being pushed out. Most men will fail miserably working in the trades and will be stuck with little job options
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:58 pm to UltimaParadox
That we need to take an entire month of the year to celebrate and advocate for what gives a small and specific group of people orgasms.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:03 pm to UltimaParadox
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Learning a trade is good for young men in this age. This will further continue the education divide between men and women. A whole generation of men are being pushed into generally low wage, physical labor jobs with very little real education. Been a huge push up create a larger cheaper work force of physical labor to replace immigrants that are being pushed out. Most men will fail miserably working in the trades and will be stuck with little job options
Women now make up the majority of med school students, law school students, and college students.
We are headed for a time when women are the primary “bread winners” if they get married, but many will simply choose not to and not have kids.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:08 pm to weagle1999
I'm not convinced that Ivermectin horse de-wormer is bad for you.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:16 pm to weagle1999
I don’t believe people when they tell me they get car sick. Car sickness is a made up thing.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:21 pm to AUveritas
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I suspect that you don't make a habit of jumping off tall buildings. You are not "free" to do so. You are bound by your sanity and knowledge.
People absolutely and freely make this CHOICE all the time with the KNOWLEDGE that it will most likely end their lives.
If I go to a restaurant and they have two things that I like and I choose sausage over bacon, is that not a free choice?
I have all the external and previous history, experience, and knowledge of these choices. I like them equally and have decided that they will equally please me.
Are you telling me that if I choose sausage, this ISN’T a free choice?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:28 pm to AUveritas
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We have free will. Your choices are dictated by preferences, genetics, past experiences and environment.
Ugh LFG!
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:28 pm to Laugh More
Would you say such a person isn't influenced by some type of mental illness? Were they free of any external pressures like mental illness? Why don't you choose to do it?
What tou choose at restaurant depends on factors like what you're in the mood to eat, the cost, what you like, etc. You are not acting on free will. You are acting based on the consequences of what you choose.
If you choose sausage, it's likely you like sausage, right? Would you choose something you dislike? Your choice is influenced by those factors.
What tou choose at restaurant depends on factors like what you're in the mood to eat, the cost, what you like, etc. You are not acting on free will. You are acting based on the consequences of what you choose.
If you choose sausage, it's likely you like sausage, right? Would you choose something you dislike? Your choice is influenced by those factors.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:38 pm to TygerTyger
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Methinks the downvotes are from politically unaware dolts and/or leftist scum.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:46 pm to Projectpat
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China has 1.4 billion people
The CCP are the biggest professional liars on planet Earth. Population stats. Covid stats. You name it. And everywhere on social media there is pro-China propaganda and bots all over the comments saying “oh wow, China so great. America so bad.” It’d be comical if I thought people were smart enough to see what’s really going on. They’re not, sadly.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:53 pm to AUveritas
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Our minds are designed to seek reality.
Our brain and its cognitive power is nothing shy of incredible. Truly incredible! I believe it to be the creation of Creator.
But to say it is an instrument in search of reality is flawed on multiple levels:
My BA in Psychology showed me that perception and reality may be two very different things, in healthy brains and even moreso, in unhealthy brains (eg, when neurotransmitter reuptake is inhibited). If there was indeed just one reality, the perception thereof will vary across many people.
But in reality (pun intended), there is no singular reality. Albert Einstein’s Theory of Relativity suggests time bends with gravity, as one case in point. Even our time reality is not universal.
I think these are deliberate parts of Creator’s design of life for His creation’s experiences. There are inherent mysteries in this design, and I think that is by His design. Unexplainable. Deliberate.
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Because our ultimate "condition" is God (the source of all truth), our minds are inherently capable of grasping universal knowledge.
And because I may be totally right or totally wrong about Creator’s design of life and the mysteries of “reality”, and you may be totally right or totally wrong about same design, is proof that our minds are capable of grasping many things, some universal and some (too many) not universal. Just read the politics board! Kidding.
I think this is more indicative that free will is alive and well. And is part of His design.
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We are conditioned by a shared rational reality. Because we both are oriented towards the same universal truths, we can communicate and exchange universal knowledge..
Pairing a subjective word with “universal” knowledge is questionable epistemology.
Love the discussion! Find it to be very interesting. My worldview, experiences, education, brain factors, personal context and conditions are all in play, as is my free will, via awareness(!)to accept or reject what lands in “my reality”.
If the entire world were 1 religion and all got along via its tenets, I would have accepted your God’s universal point without the blink of an eye. In reality (sorry, one more pun), the majority of the world has accepted something else (not universal). That is just puzzling to my deepest fibers, but I think, is part of the Creator’s design.
And so, with free will, I accept it.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:54 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
Organized religion
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:59 pm to Sus-Scrofa
[quote]If they can make you wear a seatbelt, they can make you do or not do just about anything with the same logic[quote]
Are you assuming everyone wears a seatbelt strictly because its the law? I think a lot of people wear seatbelts because there are statistics that suggest wearing a seatbelt is more likely to save your life than not.
In 1980, there were 155.8 million vehicles on the road in the US with 51,091 fatal automobile crashes.
In 2024 there were 297.5 vehicles on the road in the US with 39,254 fatalities. From 1980 to 2024 the number of vehicles increased by almost 91% while vehicle crash fatalities decreased by about 24%.
If the numbers would have stayed on pace from the 1980 numbers in 2024 the fatalities would have been closer to 100K. Car have continued to be made more safe, etc... but you know the biggest contributor? Its sad that there needs to be laws for this because some people are too fricking stupid to know what's best for them.
Are you assuming everyone wears a seatbelt strictly because its the law? I think a lot of people wear seatbelts because there are statistics that suggest wearing a seatbelt is more likely to save your life than not.
In 1980, there were 155.8 million vehicles on the road in the US with 51,091 fatal automobile crashes.
In 2024 there were 297.5 vehicles on the road in the US with 39,254 fatalities. From 1980 to 2024 the number of vehicles increased by almost 91% while vehicle crash fatalities decreased by about 24%.
If the numbers would have stayed on pace from the 1980 numbers in 2024 the fatalities would have been closer to 100K. Car have continued to be made more safe, etc... but you know the biggest contributor? Its sad that there needs to be laws for this because some people are too fricking stupid to know what's best for them.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:02 pm to armytiger96
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Do you not realize that when lights are on "auto" during the day your headlights are on but your taillights remain off? Yes, during a blinding rain in the day they can see the bright yellow blinking lights while simultaneously not seeing the tail lights that are not on.
This is the exact reason you see "lights on when raining" signs on major interstates and highways. Turning your light switch to "on" turns in all the lights you need in a heavy downpour.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:06 pm to AUveritas
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If you choose sausage, it's likely you like sausage, right? Would you choose something you dislike? Your choice is influenced by those factors.
I gave the example of having two choices that I like equally the same and would equally please me. I choose sausage one day and then bacon another. These are free choices that I make.
I can see that we will not see breakfast meat to breakfast meat, so agree to disagree?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:10 pm to weagle1999
I don't believe in the Trinity
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:13 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
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And so, with free will, I accept it.
Touche lol
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:13 pm to Laugh More
The sheer magnitude of influence upon us is undeniable. There are dozens of major unexposed influences affecting us in simple task like what we will eat for dinner, not even considering genetic and epigenetic phenomena. Take an alcoholic who is now sober for example, it seems they exercise their free will to do so, or maybe they’re just the type of person that can make it happpen.
Maybe, just maybe there is a narrow spectrum of Will that we can exercise, but even then that spectrum is probably predetermined, and some people have more agency than others. Because here’s the thing I can influence you and you can influence me, but can I influence myself. The answer is likely, yes, and that ability is likely predetermined.
What most people care about is that their influences are uniquely theirs and something they can identify with. People are OK with that.
Maybe, just maybe there is a narrow spectrum of Will that we can exercise, but even then that spectrum is probably predetermined, and some people have more agency than others. Because here’s the thing I can influence you and you can influence me, but can I influence myself. The answer is likely, yes, and that ability is likely predetermined.
What most people care about is that their influences are uniquely theirs and something they can identify with. People are OK with that.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:14 pm to weagle1999
America is in for a bloody summer.
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