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re: Commonly held beliefs that you suspect are wrong

Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:55 pm to
Don’t judge a book by its cover

Of course I’m going to judge that mofo by its cover

(And I’m a librarian)
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22674 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:57 pm to
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Don’t judge a book by its cover

Of course I’m going to judge that mofo by its cover

(And I’m a librarian)

Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60903 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:02 pm to
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Which makes it effective to keep someone from driving into to back of me since they can't see my taillights in a significant down pour.
but they can miraculously see your hazard lights?
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:08 pm to
But I don’t HAVE to make those decisions is what I’m saying. Yes, they influence our behaviors, yes, we have learned the way to do things and so we are STEERED in a certain direction, but we still have the choice to make.

I messed up my wrist a while back and my wife wanted me to go to the doc for a while. I chose not to and to research it on my own and it healed through the things I found

I was the one that dictated that choice and series of next steps.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60903 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:14 pm to
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The myth has been debunked numerous times in recent years by people who know a lot more than random hairdressers,
I’m really glad you said this

I have very straight hair - and I think I got 3 days without washing my hair and I was like this is not normal!

My hair is so straight that it actually has to be wet to curl - it’s just how it is

Not many hair products out there for me anymore either
Posted by AUIH1
Logan Martin Lake, Talladega, AL
Member since Oct 2012
462 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:18 pm to
This one. Diversity is our biggest problem right now. Most of the diversity falls into the ghetto and illegal camp. Which sucks for us productive, civilized members of society.
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
1268 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:19 pm to
That the 5th dentist actually liked Trident as well but just wanted to be an a-hole.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3825 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:27 pm to
You're missing the point. You choose to make those decisions based on several external factors. Your will is never free of them.

You chose not to go to the hospital based on external factors, whether you realize it or not.

Absolutely no one has completeness will. Every decision you make is based on external factors that affect your decision making.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2667 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:50 pm to
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but they can miraculously see your hazard lights?


This can't be a serious question. Do you not realize that when lights are on "auto" during the day your headlights are on but your taillights remain off? Yes, during a blinding rain in the day they can see the bright yellow blinking lights while simultaneously not seeing the tail lights that are not on.

I don't know that I would consider this phenomenon as a miracle, but to each his own.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86372 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Yes, they influence our behaviors, yes, we have learned the way to do things and so we are STEERED in a certain direction, but we still have the choice to make.


if everything that allowed us to make that decision was not within our control, is it really our decision?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26356 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:55 pm to
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you not realize that when lights are on "auto" during the day your headlights are on but your taillights remain off?


Most modern cars turn on the headlights and taillights when the wipers are on for about 30 seconds.
Posted by 90Delmore
Member since Feb 2006
282 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:01 pm to
I don’t know how to link it but look up Cliff Clavins Buffalo Theory.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2667 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:04 pm to
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Most modern cars turn on the headlights and taillights when the wipers are on for about 30 seconds.Most modern cars turn on the headlights and taillights when the wipers are on for about 30 seconds.


Well then they aren't bright enough because they are not effective in a torrential down pours during the day. If I'm on the interstate and can't see the tail lights in front of me then my hazards are coming on until there is a car behind me then I turn them off.

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26356 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:05 pm to
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Well then they aren't bright enough because they are not effective in a torrential down pours during the day. If I'm on the interstate and can't see the tail lights in front of me then my hazards are coming on until there is a car behind me then I turn them off.


It’s cool. But it’s also illegal in many states.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4567 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:20 pm to
Driving slower saves gas. How can you burn less gas if it takes longer to get there?
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
4001 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:21 pm to
I’m not missing the point at all.

The point of will is making the choice REGARDLESS of external factors.

None of that matters when I simply choose the path to take.

quote:

You chose not to go to the hospital based on external factors, whether you realize it or not.


This right here proves it by your own words. I CHOSE to do or not do something; it’s really that simple.

I took information from source A and from source B and then decided to do option C. I CHOSE that. Don’t over complicate it
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26356 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:23 pm to
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I took information from source A and from source B and then decided to do option C. I CHOSE that. Don’t over complicate it


Depends on who controls the information.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73853 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:31 pm to
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That spanking kids as discipline works. It works for kids that can be disciplined anyway, and makes the situation worse for kids that can't. If spanking worked, black and Hispanic kids would be the best behaved on the planet.


You’re only half right. You see, spanking doesn’t work if it’s not reinforced with actually teaching your kids to behave like a civilized human by both your words and actions, and by actions I mean how you behave as the parent. Kids learn the most from us by the example we set, far more than the words we say.

If all you do is beat their arse every time they mess up without any corrective instructions or explanation, especially about the connection between actions and consequences, they learn nothing from it. And if they see you acting like a fool, they’ll follow in your footsteps.

But on the other hand if you do actually teach them to be a civilized human by your instructions and your own behavior, along with reinforcing those lessons with the consequence of spanking when they step out of line, the results are almost always a well adjusted and well behaved child.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26356 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:37 pm to
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But on the other hand if you do actually teach them to be a civilized human by your instructions and your own behavior, along with reinforcing those lessons with the consequence of spanking when they step out of line, the results are almost always a well adjusted and well behaved child.


Spanking isn’t what makes this work. The punishment/consequences could be numerous other things and have the same impact.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3825 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:39 pm to
I suspect your view of free will is something like libertarian free will based on materialism: that is, unconditioned power to choose options arbitrarily (e.g., choosing either a burger or a salad). However, a sane person is not "free" to jump off a cliff just because they want to; sanity and knowledge actually restrict their choices to what is good and rational.

If a human being is merely a biological machine shaped entirely by local, physical conditions (like genetics, chemical reactions, and environment), then you would be 100% correct. You could never have universal knowledge because your thoughts would just be accidental byproducts of physical history. But, we are not conditioned merely by physical history.We are conditioned by a transcendental orientation toward truth, beauty, and goodness. Our minds are designed to seek reality. Because our ultimate "condition" is God (the source of all truth), our minds are inherently capable of grasping universal knowledge.

We are conditioned by a shared rational reality. Because we both are oriented towards the same universal truths, we can communicate and exchange universal knowledge.

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