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re: CNN - it was “unfortunate” that cadets weren’t actually racist
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:50 pm to The Mick
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:50 pm to The Mick
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"The speech still stands, the words ring true"
What does she mean by this?
Newsflash - racism won't be tolerated and diversity is still important.
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That's not true at all. In fact it harms people of all walks because it casts doubt on future racism claims
Well I'm not saying it's not harmful at all. I'm just saying it's a better scenario than option #2.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:52 pm to gorillacoco
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I'm just saying it's a better scenario than option #2.
And I disagree. In fact my default opinion when I hear one of these stories is that it's a hoax
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:52 pm to The Mick
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Another question here is why isn't the black cadet being held responsible for a hate crime? If a white cadet actually wrote it, they would be tried and kicked out I'm sure. So why should it be any different?
I see what you're saying, and agree they should probably lay the hammer down on people that do this type of thing, if for the only reason to send a message that while racism won't be tolerated, neither will faking racism.
But it won't happen, unfortunately.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:52 pm to keakar
The general stands by his statement that those that do not understand dignity and respect are not welcome here.
I wonder if this will apply to the victim turned perp.
I wonder if this will apply to the victim turned perp.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:54 pm to slackster
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It's unfortunate it turned out to be one of the victims.
So now the guy that wrote it is still considered a victim? Jesus Christ
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:54 pm to The Mick
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Another question here is why isn't the black cadet being held responsible for a hate crime?
Do we know he's not in trouble?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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my default opinion when I hear one of these stories is that it's a hoax
That's because the majority of the time the last 3 years it's been proven to be a hoax
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:55 pm to The Mick
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Another question here is why isn't the black cadet being held responsible for a hate crime? If a white cadet actually wrote it, they would be tried and kicked out I'm sure. So why should it be any different?
The AP said something along the lines of "Victim of hate speech determined to be author" or something similarly stupid.
Given where we are in society, the cadet should probably be punished not for lying, but for insensitivity to himself, then he should sue the academy for being subject to his own actions.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:55 pm to gorillacoco
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I'm just saying it's a better scenario than option #2.
how is this your logic? Real victims of blatant racism should be livid. The last thing we need in race relations is folks looking at these events as "the boy who cried wolf".
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:56 pm to TH03
quote:Why would I hope that people become less sensitive and realize that there's assholes in the world and it's not a big deal if someone says something mean?
Why would you hope for this?
Oh, idk.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:56 pm to upgrayedd
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So now the guy that wrote it is still considered a victim? Jesus Christ
That's clearly not what he meant. You're just trying to get offended in this thread.
He should've used "victims" but it's clear he meant that.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:56 pm to VinegarStrokes
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my interpretation was that it's unfortunate this happened, period. Not that it's unfortunate that a white person didn't actually write the messages.
I hate CNN as much as the next guy, but this is pretty absurd.
agreed
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:57 pm to PrivatePublic
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The general stands by his statement that those that do not understand dignity and respect are not welcome here.
I wonder if this will apply to the victim turned perp.
I got the impression that is exactly what he meant.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:57 pm to Breesus
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That's because the majority of the time the last 3 years it's been proven to be a hoax
Yep. It appears the hoaxers and fear mongering faaaar outweigh the racists. And they're doubling down on the fearmongering
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:58 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why would I hope that people become less sensitive and realize that there's assholes in the world and it's not a big deal if someone says something mean?
That is nowhere in the same universe as what you said.
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Perhaps because it will lead people to take actual instances of hate speech less seriously on the future?
Hate speech isn't just saying something mean.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:58 pm to TH03
quote:If it was a white guy, do you think he wouldn't have been immediately and very publicly kicked out the academy and likely arrested?
Do we know he's not in trouble?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:59 pm to The Mick
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Another question here is why isn't the black cadet being held responsible for a hate crime? If a white cadet actually wrote it, they would be tried and kicked out I'm sure. So why should it be any different?
My stance on hate crimes is that the term is absurd. A crime is a crime. It would be hypocritical to ask this guy to be wrung up on hate crime charges when I don't believe they're appropriate for anyone.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It appears the hoaxers and fear mongering faaaar outweigh the racists.
I don't really believe this. Most racist folks just don't do blatant shite like write racist things on walls. They are just casually racist with their buddies and whatnot.
Same for black folks, though. Many of them casually are racist towards other minorities and whites.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:01 pm to upgrayedd
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So now the guy that wrote it is still considered a victim? Jesus Christ
, come on. Should I edit to "alleged 'victims'"?
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