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re: CNN - it was “unfortunate” that cadets weren’t actually racist

Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:20 pm to
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It's possible and likely she just meant it's unfortunate some a-hole fabricated this whole thing.


Of course. When I watched it, though, that wasn't really how she came across. I'm willing to admit I could be misreading it, but I'm just being honest.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:20 pm to
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CNN - it was “unfortunate” that cadets weren’t actually racist


Huh? Did you watch the video?

She says it was unfortunate to learn who wrote it, implying it was unfortunate this story was a hoax. If she said she was glad it was a hoax, you would have made this same post saying "CNN is pro-hoax stories."



ETA - CNN has their faults, no doubt, and they're easy to point out. However, this is a dumb one.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:21 pm to
Get this bullshite out of the OT and off of TD completely. It's worse than what's on the poli board. I don't like CNN but you are spewing lies and making up things that aren't there.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:21 pm to
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I don't think she meant that it's unfortunate that it wasn't real but she did express angst that it was a fake



Obviously if it was real it would be worse, but someone faking it is still terrible. It ruins the credibility of anyone who is a legit victim of a hate crime.

It's just like dumb bitches who falsely accuse men of rape. It causes everyone to pause and question legitimate victims who speak out.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:22 pm to
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I really wish mods could crack down on fake and misleading thread titles like this one for all of TD. How is that a stretch?


Because she didn't say it was unfortunate the cadets weren't actually racists?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:23 pm to
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Of course. When I watched it, though, that wasn't really how she came across. I'm willing to admit I could be misreading it, but I'm just being honest.


Yep. She was definitely disappointed in the hoax but that doesn't necessarily mean she hoped some white guy was really racist
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2306 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:25 pm to
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She said it's unfortunate to find out who actually wrote it


Why is that "unfortunate"?


She didn't say "it's unfortunate to find out who actually wrote it".

What she said was:
"The speech still stands, the words ring true, its just unfortunate to find out who - really all the way around - who wrote it"

The obvious reading of her statement would be disappointment that the positive statement from the Air Force (the "Speech") was based on and tainted by false information.

The only way to get your interpretation is to remove all context and ignore the part that says "all the way around".
Posted by slackster
Houston
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91874 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Yep. She was definitely disappointed in the hoax but that doesn't necessarily mean she hoped some white guy was really racist


It's also a bit embarrassing to everyone who reported on it too. She said it was "unfortunate to learn who, really all the way around, who wrote it." In other words, the entire situation was unfortunate.
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Quite a STRETCH



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:28 pm to
This is a prime example of how we overthink and over analyze everything and are becoming negative and cynical as a result
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:30 pm to
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It's also a bit embarrassing to everyone who reported on it too. She said it was "unfortunate to learn who, really all the way around, who wrote it." In other words, the entire situation was unfortunate.


Yeah she mentioned the general, John McCain, etc who spoke out when it happened. This one kid's shitty lie distracted so many people from shedding light on possible real instances of racism that could've happened.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:30 pm to
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This is a prime example of how we overthink and over analyze everything and are becoming negative and cynical as a result


Yeah, people see/hear what they want. Many people on both sides can spin anything to fit their preconceived notions.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:31 pm to
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This is a prime example of how we overthink and over analyze everything and are becoming negative and cynical as a result


It's becoming increasingly clear that we have to. Fake racism claims and fake rape claims are only hurting real victims.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Yeah she mentioned the general, John McCain, etc who spoke out when it happened. This one kid's shitty lie distracted so many people from shedding light on possible real instances of racism that could've happened.


Unfortunate seems like a pretty good way to describe the entire thing.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Unfortunate seems like a pretty good way to describe the entire thing.


Yep. You could even say it's unfortunate all the way around.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:33 pm to
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It's becoming increasingly clear that we have to. Fake racism claims and fake rape claims are only hurting real victims.


Basically the word racist has lost all meaning due to ubase, which is unfortunate for real victims.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92381 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Perhaps because it will lead people to take actual instances of hate speech less seriously on the future?
We can only hope.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:34 pm to
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quote:

Perhaps because it will lead people to take actual instances of hate speech less seriously on the future?

We can only hope.


Why would you hope for this?
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:35 pm to
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Unfortunate seems like a pretty good way to describe the entire thing.

We call these acts despicable at first, then once proven to be a hoax, we call them "unfortunate". That's a real problem.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92381 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:35 pm to
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It's becoming increasingly clear that we have to. Fake racism claims and fake rape claims are only hurting real victims.
I tend to use this as proof that things are getting better.

Also proof that the left doesn't want things to get better
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