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Clancy case: Is anyone guilty of anything?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:58 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:58 am
Couldn’t they just use the same justification for any mass shooter or serial killer? Was Jeffery Dahmer right in the head? Should he have been found not guilty?
Having experienced being with a family member in a truly manic/psychotic episode on multiple occasions, I can assure that someone in this state is not capable of methodically planning anything out and are not capable of altering their behavior to appear to be in a normal state of mind. They can cause harm to themselves or others, but not it’s very “in the moment”, not premeditated
Having experienced being with a family member in a truly manic/psychotic episode on multiple occasions, I can assure that someone in this state is not capable of methodically planning anything out and are not capable of altering their behavior to appear to be in a normal state of mind. They can cause harm to themselves or others, but not it’s very “in the moment”, not premeditated
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:59 am to burger bearcat
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:05 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:00 am to burger bearcat
Not shocking that this person is gaslighting us on responsibility
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:00 am to burger bearcat
I actually have a more extreme view point. I don't believe mental illness excuses heinous acts and feel that executing a mentally unstable person is okay. Mental illness or not, if you were allowed to live in and participate in normal society, you should also be eligible for normal society punishments.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:02 am to burger bearcat
your AI algorithm is scrambling your brainz!1!1
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:02 am to burger bearcat
When the shite hits the fan, strong and independent women somehow have zero agency over their own bodies and zero accountability for their actions.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:03 am to FliesByNight
quote:
I actually have a more extreme view point. I don't believe mental illness excuses heinous acts and feel that executing a mentally unstable person is okay. Mental illness or not, if you were allowed to live in and participate in normal society, you should also be eligible for normal society punishments.
bingo
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:05 am to FliesByNight
I agree. If it happened once it could happen again. In fact, if it happened once, it's probably more likely to happen again.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:07 am to FliesByNight
quote:
I actually have a more extreme view point. I don't believe mental illness excuses heinous acts and feel that executing a mentally unstable person is okay. Mental illness or not, if you were allowed to live in and participate in normal society, you should also be eligible for normal society punishments.
guess I have extreme views too, because I completely agree with you. I take it a step further though and advocate for institutionalizing the mentally ill regardless of criminal activity. There is no reason to allow cray people to live in society as "the homeless". Nor is there any reason to allow those who are mentally unstable to live among us waiting for them to commit a crime before we lock them away. I think if we incarcerated crazy people, we'd have a lot less crazy people. Its an excuse for some to rationalize (and get away with) abhorent behavior.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:07 am to burger bearcat
The jury is guilty of being retarded.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:11 am to burger bearcat
The major issue in this case is that in Massachusetts you don't have to prove you are not guilty by reason of insanity it's up to the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt you weren't. Most other states (it might even be all others) require you to put on an affirmative defense and prove the mental insanity - which is similar to a self defense defense in most states. From everything I've seen and read about the state's case they did a horrible job in proving she wasn't insane at the time.
Sure, common sense is she wasn't or at least not any more so than anyone else who murders someone else but in MA the state has to prove it.
Sure, common sense is she wasn't or at least not any more so than anyone else who murders someone else but in MA the state has to prove it.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:12 am to UFFan
It has always been my opinion that if someone is found insane they they should be executed. There is no fixing insanity.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:12 am to burger bearcat
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Having experienced being .......... I can assure that someone in this state is not capable of methodically planning anything out and are not capable of altering their behavior to appear to be in a normal state of mind.
Having also been in this situation for multiple years with a spouse, your statement may be true of your experience but it is not the case for mine and many other.
Many Bi-polar / manic depressives are absolutely capable of deception and meticulous planning.
Some harm and self harm is "in the moment" some is very much planned.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:13 am to CocomoLSU
i work with a very intelligent female who rarely says anything that everyone isnt feeling. she is an easy to approach leader who embraces any disagreement and calmy listens with an open mind, many times changing the approach or decision afterwards.
she is absolutely convinced it was the husband, wont listen or entertain any discussion, she will almost put her hands over her ears like a kid.
its bonkers!
she is absolutely convinced it was the husband, wont listen or entertain any discussion, she will almost put her hands over her ears like a kid.
its bonkers!
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:14 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:15 am to burger bearcat
i think a mom in Illinois just killed her 2 yr old...i am guessing she will be using the same defense. It's just the beginning.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:17 am to burger bearcat
In Massachusetts, can the judge throw out the jury's verdict and rule from the bench?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:19 am to slidingstop
Families are afraid to force members into treatment because they (at least what I’ve seen) are worried the member will be angry, cut them off, or blame them.
I will never forget on the way to a rehab and I said “well I’ll leave they can’t keep me”. My dad turned and said “if you do, I don’t know you”. My point, my family was prepared to make the tough decision.
That’s why we have “I knew something was wrong or I knew they were a danger but what could I do?” Crowd.
I will never forget on the way to a rehab and I said “well I’ll leave they can’t keep me”. My dad turned and said “if you do, I don’t know you”. My point, my family was prepared to make the tough decision.
That’s why we have “I knew something was wrong or I knew they were a danger but what could I do?” Crowd.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:19 am to slidingstop
Families are afraid to force members into treatment because they (at least what I’ve seen) are worried the member will be angry, cut them off, or blame them.
I will never forget on the way to a rehab and I said “well I’ll leave they can’t keep me”. My dad turned and said “if you do, I don’t know you”. My point, my family was prepared to make the tough decision.
That’s why we have “I knew something was wrong or I knew they were a danger but what could I do?” Crowd.
I will never forget on the way to a rehab and I said “well I’ll leave they can’t keep me”. My dad turned and said “if you do, I don’t know you”. My point, my family was prepared to make the tough decision.
That’s why we have “I knew something was wrong or I knew they were a danger but what could I do?” Crowd.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:48 am to GeauxtigersMs36
Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:49 am to burger bearcat
Why is she always so calm in any videos of her, courtroom or not? She isn’t crazy, she’s a murderer….
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