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re: Clancy case: Is anyone guilty of anything?

Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Dixie2023
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:49 am to
Seems about right. Am thinking the same.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:01 am to
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Having experienced being with a family member in a truly manic/psychotic episode on multiple occasions, I can assure that someone in this state is not capable of methodically planning anything out and are not capable of altering their behavior to appear to be in a normal state of mind. They can cause harm to themselves or others, but not it’s very “in the moment”, not premeditated


IMO the larger issue is how Massachusetts determines their "not guilty by reason of insanity" plea. The duty is on the prosecution to prove sanity at the moment of the murders, not on the defendant to prove they were insane. Which is more difficult to prove IMO.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:09 am to
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Having also been in this situation for multiple years with a spouse, your statement may be true of your experience but it is not the case for mine and many other. Many Bi-polar / manic depressives are absolutely capable of deception and meticulous planning. Some harm and self harm is "in the moment" some is very much planned.


There’s a distinct difference between someone who is psychotic or a sociopath and someone who is manic.

My family member has had a few manic episodes under certain circumstances, and was completely out of her mind. And needing to be restrained in a metal hospital until she could get back in a functioning state.

There was no hiding her behavior and state of mind. She was not capable of plotting or scheming or manipulating someone into something like leaving the house for multiple hours
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