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re: China sets trap for U.S., British Navies; catches its own submarine

Posted on 10/4/23 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Some important story details missing, but rest assured there's no way a USN, Brit or Australian sub would blindly collide with this type of subsea obstacle.


Why are we taking for granted that a Chinese sub got caught in a Chinese trap instead of considering that a Chinese sub FAFO’d and the Chinese don’t want to lose face?
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2646 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 4:58 pm to
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tragic


quote:

unfortunate


I find it neither tragic nor unfortunate.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17054 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 5:00 pm to
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What exactly do they mean by trap? Are they actively trying to sink US/UK Naval vessels?


Yeah, was wondering the same. Sounds like an act of war. Or at least it would be if we didn't have a president owned by Chy-na in the Oral office.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96147 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 5:08 pm to
Because China has never been shy about trying to shift blame onto other nations when they play chicken with our vessels.

If we did what they considered to be a provocative attack, we’d have heard the screaming from here.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5964 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 5:43 pm to
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Why are we taking for granted that a Chinese sub got caught in a Chinese trap instead of considering that a Chinese sub FAFO’d and the Chinese don’t want to lose face?

Could be but I don’t know. You asked so you tell me.

It’s a poorly written article. Chatbot? I have no way of knowing, other than what I stated about U.S. Navy sub capabilities is greatly simplified. Classified and all that shite.
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
485 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 5:55 pm to
I pee pee in your coke
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3018 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 5:57 pm to
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steel or other type metal trap placed vertically in the water column is a significant structure, lighting up like a Christmas Tree on bow sonar.


US subs aren't running around with sonar going. Gives your position away. The quietest spot in the water is probably our sub.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5964 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 6:08 pm to
Understood. What would they do in hostile Chinese waters? Run even more quiet. I’m making a wild guess this trap was set in shallow water, near a naval port. Setting them in the open ocean would be very hit and miss and a waste of resources.

Perhaps it was near one of those islands they’ve built in the South China Sea. I don’t know for sure just speculation.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11860 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 6:10 pm to
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Don’t forget ensign Hai Kon Bweef


Gaaaaaawwwwd damn!!!

Eta: it took a minute.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:10 pm to
Any word if General Tso’s chicken made it?
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 7:11 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:16 pm to
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Any word if General Tso’s chicken made it?

They're getting worse.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54590 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:20 pm to
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None of the name jokes are funny.

Liar.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
4676 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:34 pm to
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Don’t forget ensign Hai Kon Bweef
That one took me a couple of times pronouncing it, but when I got it right……

frick, me too


I had to say it out loud
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17484 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:54 pm to
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Prayers to sailior Nho Oh Tu


You win the internet for the day!
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17484 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 7:59 pm to
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None of the name jokes are funny.


Go away you kill joy!
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1598 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:08 pm to
Not sure, but his nephew Sum Ting Wong didn't.
Posted by Roman Candle Tag
Member since Mar 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:10 pm to
If you don't think they're funny, make up your own funny chinaman name joke.
I'll wait.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:23 pm to
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So if they had trapped a US or British sub and had the same result, would that have been an act of war?


Of course not. We would have had an "independent" western country conduct a multi-year investigation only to declare it a navigational incident which was regretted by both countries.

This has been going on since at least Vietnam with the Navy, and certainly before. The USS Pueblo, the USS Liberty, all of this crap gets whitewashed. Since you got me started on the USN, your first job as a captain/crew is to not run into shite, and yet we do it repeatedly. But we need diversity objectives instead. I'll wait for another thread for that.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96147 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:25 pm to
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Since you got me started on the USN, your first job as a captain/crew is to not run into shite, and yet we do it repeatedly


Kids can’t fricking steer the boat these days because of changes in training policies from what I’ve been told.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:29 pm to
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Some important story details missing, but rest assured there's no way a USN, Brit or Australian sub would blindly collide with this type of subsea obstacle.


Uh...google USS Connecticut.

This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 8:30 pm
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