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re: CBS report on ticket price increases, Ticketmaster/LiveNation monopoly, and scalpers

Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:18 am to
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25014 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:18 am to
I saw KC and the Sunshine band 30 years ago - it was a really good show.

I look for stellar musicians playing at small venues, like the Louisiana Grandstand in Shreveport. I got a chance to see Zach Top with only 400 people.
Posted by TTB
LA to L.A.
Member since Nov 2006
2711 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:30 am to
Easy fix to this problem. No more online sales. Wanna go to a show? Gotta get tickets the old school way. Take your arse down to Goudchaux’s/Maison Blanche and wait in line. 4 ticket max. Cash only. Some of my fondest memories were camping out for GnR, Van Halen, Pearl Jam tix. Will never happen obviously.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Didn’t they sign some legislation to prevent that recently?


Will not happen, the biggest scalpers are never brought to task. You may have experienced this with SEC schools.

Not singling out any school but you can verify if your school loots a bit like this

2,000 = 2 season tickets for home team
+
10,000 = mandatory annual "donation" (the real scalper) for right to by tickets

2K = face
10K = scalping by school
12K = real cost of tickets
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31107 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:43 am to
quote:

camping out for GnR,


1992 in a sleeping bag underneath the ramp at the LSU Assembly Center. It’s a night I’ll never forget.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:49 am to
quote:

camping out for GnR


Could make a gal hungry.



Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31077 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:40 am to
quote:

50% goes to the venue

Which it should
quote:

band's management takes a quarter,

Get new management
quote:

travel/crew cost takes another quarter

Seems really high in todays market
quote:

The band makes about $10 per ticket, split 5 ways among the members.

So $7K per member for a nights work?

$200,000 / $56 per = 3,572 tickets
3,572 x $10 = $35,715 for the band
$35,715 / 5 members = $7,143 per

thats $21K for a 3 day weekend, and over half a million a year for 25 weekends
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14117 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:42 am to
Because you morons go to concerts LOL.

I cannot believe people spend money to go watch people play and sing with other people they dont know for hours on end spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

I cannot imagine a worse way to spend money.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
21921 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:47 am to
I would love to see Ticketmaster crash and burn.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9120 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Without the band, there’s $0 for anyone.

The venue made $100k for hosting. The band makes $7k. Everyone who showed up, showed up to see the band.

You don’t see an issue there?


He went to UL-M.

He likely doesn't see much.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11666 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:52 pm to
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I get what you’re saying but the band didn’t have to accept the terms of the deal either.

You’re getting closer to the problem. Live Nation has a monopoly on arena shows. Was going to post a list in LA but hit submit to early. But the monopoly is real.

ETA: The following are Live Nation venues in LA:
- Baton Rouge River Center
- Smoothie King Center
- New Orleans Lakefront
- Varsity Theatre
- Tipitina’s (all locations)
- Texas Club
- Cajun Dome
- Cajun Field
- New Orleans Convention Center
- House of Blues NOLA
- L’Auberge (BR and LC)
- Saenger Theatre
… and that’s just when I got tired of looking more of them up. If you want to play arena shows or even large bar shows, it’s really hard to do so without playing at Live Nation venues.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9847 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:56 pm to
I’ve just stopped going to shite. I gave up my LSU season tickets. Haven’t been to a concert or anything else that requires tickets for assigned seating in like 3 years now.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32905 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Something Corporate




Talk about two words that bring me back to highschool very quickly. We were so cool back then shouting "frick YOU JORDAN!"
Posted by lagniappe09
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
509 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:52 pm to
We had to show passport last year for tickets we bought for the French Open to enter the venue

Name on our tickets had to match our Passport


Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:47 pm to
quote:


Ticket prices, and then the fricking fees. Gotta love buying two $50 tickets and when you check out the total is like $185.

Didn’t they sign some legislation to prevent that recently?


You know how to stop all this, right?
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18914 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:52 pm to
One thing I will give credit for in England - their tickets can only be resold for face value or less.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67849 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

thats $21K for a 3 day weekend, and over half a million a year for 25 weekends


Don’t forget corporate gigs where the real money is at.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59921 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Because you morons go to concerts LOL.

I cannot believe people spend money to go watch people play and sing with other people they dont know for hours on end spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

I cannot imagine a worse way to spend money.


you're on a website dedicated to people paying money to watch 18 year olds play a child's game.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3418 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:19 pm to
That’s how I used to buy tickets. I’d go to the Superdome or UNO Lakefront Arena during lunch and buy. Cheaper than online. No performer is worth the cost with the excess fees these days.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33802 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

I agree with the premise of the article but I don’t necessarily feel bad for the band like this is trying to make me feel.


I believe that number they quoted was just the fees and not the actual ticket price. And of course the band gets money from merch sales and maybe some from the concessions as well?
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 9:35 pm
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
1965 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:28 pm to
Pretty simple fix, if you buy tickets using an artist pre-sale code the original driver's license or credit card must be shown when entering. It's what Rogan does at his comedy club to prevent scalping.

But they'll never do that because Ticketmaster makes money from scalpers. Each time someone buys and sells tickets TM makes more money so why would they want true fans to buy the tickets? They want scalpers to pay fees buying the tickets, scalpers paying fees selling the tickets, then the fans going to the concert to pay fees buying the tickets to use. It's a scam, hence why they refuse to do anything about it.
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