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re: Catholic school fires Louisiana band director after husband's obituary reveals he is gay
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:51 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:51 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Don’t know if this has been mentioned because I don’t have the patience to read 13 pages so apologies if German.
Once the church administration was on notice, actual notice, they had to fire him. Given the litigation history, the lawyers called this one.
Before a complaint/recorded notice, they could play dumb and let him stay. And they did. Once he was outed he had to go.
Instead of appreciating the tolerance shown him, our gay friend complains when justice is served.
Once the church administration was on notice, actual notice, they had to fire him. Given the litigation history, the lawyers called this one.
Before a complaint/recorded notice, they could play dumb and let him stay. And they did. Once he was outed he had to go.
Instead of appreciating the tolerance shown him, our gay friend complains when justice is served.
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:04 pm to Harry Boutte
quote:frick you, dude
frick you.
Children have been raped for millennia by evil people, I’m sorry that you believe the media’s lies about the Catholic Church having the monopoly on child rape. I hope you also want to use Muslim, Baptist preachers, and teachers’ intestines to strangle kings as well. Oh wait, your next line will be for me to stay on topic.
There are many more good priests than there are bad - and if you don’t believe that then you are just as evil as the bad priests because you are helping perpetuate a lie.
This teacher did not follow his legally binding contract. That’s what the deal is. If he would not be gay, this wouldn’t even be something discussed.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 7/4/25 at 12:49 am to Azranod
So you think that only the Old Testament addresses this topic?
Have you missed reading Romans or Galatians or Jude? It is pretty unambiguously stated. We are not addressing ceremonial fabric for rituals done in ancient Israel here. This is a discussion of God's plan for basic human interaction. And it is not an endorsement of man and man marital relationship by any stretch of the imagination.
Have you missed reading Romans or Galatians or Jude? It is pretty unambiguously stated. We are not addressing ceremonial fabric for rituals done in ancient Israel here. This is a discussion of God's plan for basic human interaction. And it is not an endorsement of man and man marital relationship by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:09 am to Harry Boutte
quote:The Bible is used to interpret the Bible. You go through the texts and look for examples, clarifications and themes. We see the clear articulation of man and woman union in Genesis and plainly shown in numerous pairings - most obviously in Song of Songs. We see it reaffirmed in the New Testament through numerous examples and also we see warnings about homosexual activities. (See Romans, Galatians and Jude.)
So when do we have to go by the OT, and when do we have to go by the NT?
quote:Jesus lived a sinless life in accordance with all legal and ceremonial requirements. He was the perfect being and sacrificed himself on our behalf because nobody else is worthy.
I thought Jesus "fulfilled the law" whatever the frick that means.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:11 am to ronricks
The Catholic Church for years let priest molest young boys and girls. Where was this morality when so many kids had their lives and innocence destroyed???
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:37 am to Sofaking2
Because he thought he never would be caught, that's how these queer frickers think,their deviant, they lead a deviant lifestyle,
The catholic Church has been covering this shite up for decades, they will reap what the sow.
The catholic Church has been covering this shite up for decades, they will reap what the sow.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:38 am to LeGrosChat
He signed a morality clause, fully knowing that he was in violation of it.
It's not hard to see that he didn't give them a choice. He had to be terminated. Im no fan of organized religion, but rules are rules. If you knowingly break the rules, you can't cry about it when you get caught.
It's not hard to see that he didn't give them a choice. He had to be terminated. Im no fan of organized religion, but rules are rules. If you knowingly break the rules, you can't cry about it when you get caught.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:59 am to tilthatday
quote:
Once the church administration was on notice, actual notice, they had to fire him. Given the litigation history, the lawyers called this one.
Before a complaint/recorded notice, they could play dumb and let him stay. And they did. Once he was outed, he had to go.
Instead of appreciating the tolerance shown him, our gay friend complains when justice is served.
I spoke to this in an earlier post that since we can link to specific posts I will repost below. The reality is if LA follows typical contract law the fact they knew and did nothing produces what is called an implied waiver of conduct. If it can be shown they knew for a specific period of time "and played dumb" they can lose the right to terminate under that specific portion of the morality clause.
Poor netiquette repost follows:
Reading the initial post and a few of the subsequent ones, and knowing we have a lot of attorneys here, I thought given the length of the thread there would be a lively legal discussion, but nope, the legal side was summed up with simply "no".
Setting aside the fact the jurisdiction is Louisiana, which is an oddball legal state, but less odd every day, there is actually a very strong possibility, given the limited details, that the contract clause is not enforceable now.
There is a strong chance (in most states) if the school knew of the breach for years, there is now an implied waiver of conduct, rendering the clause unenforceable for that particular breach.
A couple of analogies that are likely known by laymen are:
failure to enforce intellectual property rights can result in losing the rights
use it or lose it
If it can be shown "the school" through its agents knew of the breach for some period of time without action it is very likely there is a waiver of conduct. The answer is far from a simple "no" but that is almost always the case in law.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 4:00 am to LSUTANGERINE
You know the trip Holmes, take a hike.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:59 am to Swagga
quote:
Unfortunately, the school takes the brunt of the blame for a situation they had no real control over.
They had control when they knowingly hired a guy at odds with their code.
The teacher had control when he chose the safety of teaching at a Catholic school instead of a public school.
I just wish the church dealt with priests this decisively.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 7:01 am to ole man
quote:
Because he thought he never would be caught, that's how these queer frickers think,their deviant, they lead a deviant lifestyle,
Are you talking about priests or the band guy
Posted on 7/4/25 at 7:14 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:
They had control when they knowingly hired a guy at odds with their code.
They knew when they hired him?
Link?
Posted on 7/4/25 at 7:14 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:
I just wish the church dealt with priests this decisively.
X 1000
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:56 am to GreenRockTiger
Catholic Haters will never stop using this weapon while at the same time ignoring the many cases involving Protestant Pastor child molestation cases.
This particular case is egregious because the church tried to cover it up AND when the Victim complained, the Pastor had his lawyers accuse the Victim of being a little slut who initiated sex with the Pastor.
PastorRobert
This particular case is egregious because the church tried to cover it up AND when the Victim complained, the Pastor had his lawyers accuse the Victim of being a little slut who initiated sex with the Pastor.
PastorRobert
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:57 am to Champagne
When you have to rely on whatabaoutisms, you're fighting a losing battle.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:57 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:
I just wish the church dealt with priests this decisively.
The Catholic Church is very proactive in this area today.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:59 am to Lester Earl
The band guy. But the same thing goes for all the pedo priests too
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:03 am to Champagne
Not a Catholic hater by any stretch, but to compare individual cases of sordid behavior to what the Catholic Church knowingly aided and abetted, over a period of decades, is being willfully obtuse and living in denial.
Taking advantage of minors is, of course, a sin, and covering up and allowing that behavior to continue is just as bad.
Taking advantage of minors is, of course, a sin, and covering up and allowing that behavior to continue is just as bad.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:04 am to Champagne
quote:
The Catholic Church is very proactive in this area today.
Agreed.
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:15 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:
you're fighting a losing battle.
It's hilarious that you dipshits think it's a battle. Nobody cares about your hate for a specific religion. Why the frick do you think we do?
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