re: Catholic priest criticised teenager who killed himself at his own funeral

Celibacy repels men with normal sex drives while attracting men for whom lack of sex with consenting adult women isn't a dealbreaker. Pedophilia is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic Church. But the ban on married priests compounds the problem.

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Suicide is a grave sin. That priest was doing his job the right way.

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The Catholic church needs to realize that times have changed and humans have continued to learn more about.. Well, just about everything.. Including mental illness.

For someone to take their own life, they have to be in a very bad place (mental state) at that moment. It's hard for me to believe, that most people who commit suicide are thinking rational at that very moment..

And an 18 year old kid.. The brain doesn't fully develop until the average age of 26. I don't know why, but it seems like we hear about a lot of suicides involving kids who are seniors or just graduated HS. I'll look up the numbers, but it is really hard for me to believe that if god is a loving god, he would make someone suffer eternally, because they killed themselves when they were in a bad state of mind (not thinking rational), which is something a lot of people don't have control of.

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Yes.

You know, a priest could break his vow and nail some strange instead of raping children.

There are plenty of married pedophiles.

So, yes. I do.

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There might not be as many, but yeah.. I don't think the priest who molest/rape children do so because they can't get married. If a priest is going to have sex, kids are not their only option.. Priest who molest kids do so because they are pedophiles.

When I think about it, I wonder if their or pedophiles who decide to become priest because they will have access to children. It's a sick thought, but also, you can have some who recognize their attraction to children so they decide to dedicate themselves to the church in order to fight their urges, but then when they find themselves around kids, they become tempted. It doesn't matter if they are married or not.

There are gay people who get married to the opposite sex, have kids, etc because they are ashamed they are gay.. So allowing priest to get married wouldn't be a cure all to the pedophile problem.

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Catholicism is not perfect, but, I believe it is the closest thing to what Jesus imagined for his church, as it is the oldest form of Christianity, can trace its apostolic succession to Peter, and it’s certainly older and more traditional than Hill Country Baptist Guitar Church found in the Bible Belt. Every form of Christianity broke off from Catholicism.

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How so?
1. Confession required through an earthly priest. Not taught by Jesus
2. No mention of purgatory in Jesus teaching
3. Jesus taught baptism after conversion not at birth.
4. Human (Pope) determining/changing doctrine. Jesus taught God’s word is unchanging. Regardless of society.
5. Based on his humble life and teachings I doubt Jesus intended the “church” to become the largest/richest business in the world.

Could go on but these immediately come to mind. Interested to hear response.

Regardless of your opinion of the moral implications of suicide, I don’t see how any Christian could defend this kind of behavior. It’s about the most UN-Christ-like response imaginable, really.

“Speaking the truth” is no excuse. For one thing, the question of spiritual punishment for suicide is irrelevant in this context. No one listening to the eulogy chose to commit suicide themselves, and they’re almost certainly stunned, heartbroken, and bewildered by the fact their loved one did. The person who did commit suicide, on the other hand, won’t be affected in the slightest by anything a priest believes or says. The priest can be pissed at him, shame him, condemn him, whatever, but none of that gives the priest any power to determine or change the consequences of the kid’s decision. Only a cruel, egotistical piece of shite chooses to deliver a dead kid’s eulogy in a way that exponentially compounds the pain felt by the living victims of his decision and offers NO meaningful opportunity to evince positive change for anyone—and then keeps going after the father begs him to stop.

Second, while I can understand a priest not wanting to give the impression of condoning an act that the the church deems a mortal sin, it doesn’t prevent any decent person from speaking of the deceased in a way that validates the family’s loss, or from offering words of sympathy and comfort. If there’s a subject you don’t feel like you can be authentic about without making the family feel worse, then just steer clear of it.

Any priest who lacks the wisdom and compassion to understand this has no business being a priest, and is going to alienate far more people than he “saves”.

Dad allowed his son to be named "Maison", which is French for "Whore House" and then Dad is puzzled when Maison commits suicide?

Yeah...maison just means "house."

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Champagne

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your name means faggy wine

I would say more lecturing (than eulogizing) is done at protestant funerals compared to Catholic funerals.

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It’s about denying a natural, God-given drive that creates the problem. Pedophilia is based on access. Do you really think the child rape problem would exist if priests were allowed to marry?

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Are you retarded?