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re: Careers That Need More People But Isn't Encouraged

Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:44 am to
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23568 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:44 am to
Telegraph operator. None of the Western Unions have them anymore.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:59 am to
Any career that requires using tools and having some aptitude for repairing things seems to be in high demand.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5973 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:38 am to
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Careers That Need More People But Isn't Encouraged
those dudes that clean out septic tanks.




Ah ha yes, the all too undervalued "HoneyDipper"
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:52 am to
Might be one of my good friends. Got his master plumbing license about 8 yrs ago. He has a degree from A&M, but decided to go this route. Started off small with 1 helper doing mostly residential. Then he made some contacts and began doing new construction only (mostly apartment buildings). Now he has a crew of about 15+ plumbers and apprentices, custom built his own 5450sq ft home, has a vacation home in Broken Bow, wife drives a Mercedes, he drives a GMC Denali edition(these don't include his work truck and 8 company vehicles)... He almost never actually works anymore either, he just schedules the guys under him. He's looking into more property for investment purposes b/c he said he's making so much money now his taxes are nuts.

It's crazy. Dude will the a millionaire, if he isn't already one within the span of about 8 yrs.

If I could go back in time, I think i'd go this route. I wouldn't be doing all the spending he is though. I'd be saving like crazy and retire at 50.

This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 11:56 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41916 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:14 pm to
We should end all student loans for college degrees in liberal arts or non-STEM majors. We should give student loan aid to trade schools and trade apprenticeships.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:16 pm to
Plumbing is good money but at 40 or 50 years old do you really want to be digging trenches outside in the summer heat or climbing under porches and sinks? It’s great at 18-30 but I would think it gets old fast.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:17 pm to
That’s why you build a business and hire people under you. Work on your business, not in your business.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:40 pm to
Skilled contruction/service jobs, basically anything that requires post secondary schooling but not a bachelor's (people still have the mindset you need a bachelor's to be successful), non sexy tech careers (mostly jobs dealing with data), and teachers (know I will get downvoted for this).
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Plumbing is good money but at 40 or 50 years old do you really want to be digging trenches outside in the summer heat or climbing under porches and sinks?


Master plumbers aren't digging trenches themselves. They hire laborers for that stuff. My friend who is a master plumber basically just runs his company and all of the guys under him... they're the ones going under houses, in attics, etc
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Honest journalism


What does this mean exactly? Every journalist is playing to a certain subset of the population.

There's no such thing as a journalist that will appeal to all subsets.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56777 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:06 pm to
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There's no such thing as a journalist that will appeal to all subsets.



My friend, let me introduce you to All Gas No Brakes
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7924 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:19 pm to
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These are jobs some people even look down on.. until they need one.. In HS its all about preparing kids to go to college, but is there anything that promotes jobs you don't have to go to college for? Jobs where you can go to trade school instead of college?


Might depend on the high school, but I know mine certainly didn't push anyone to go to trade school. The college counselor tried as hard as they could to get students to go to out of state, private universities, presumably for school recognition and maybe some back end deals. Can't say for certain though, but I wish I was told about trade school before making the decision to go to college, albeit I went to college pretty much for free thanks to TOPS.

Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:25 pm to
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The college counselor tried as hard as they could to get students to go to out of state, private universities, presumably for school recognition and maybe some back end deals.


Same here, and same with my kids. They think that if they go to LSU and eschew borrowing a sum that could buy a small house, they've somehow lost out to their classmates who did. You can sit there and tell them, "you won't even remember these people in 10 years," but it's all about the here and now, and there are some very pernicious influences pushing them to go to the very "best" school they can, by hook or by crook.

I was too smart for that, or maybe just too lazy. I was sick of having to depend on my parents for shite and really just wanted to reach the point where I could afford a running, insured car and a cockroach-free apartment without having to listen to a bunch of crap from them. Getting a technical degree at a state school was the best path to that.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125191 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:27 pm to
ITT a bunch of college graduates say that other people’s children should go to trade school.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1731 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:29 pm to
The world needs ditch diggers too, Danny.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:32 pm to
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Plumbing is good money but at 40 or 50 years old do you really want to be digging trenches outside in the summer heat or climbing under porches and sinks? It’s great at 18-30 but I would think it gets old fast.
Guy that redid my septic system in middle of nowhere is about same age as me. Makes as much of a living as he likes, works on his own schedule, picks and chooses his jobs and tells the others who else to call. Basically semi-retirement, working for play money and to stay in shape.

It's like if he has an appliance of his own go bad he takes enough work to get a new top of the line replacement. Or if his boat needs work, he'll do some work.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11847 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:32 pm to
Any of the trades.

My niece is getting beautician licensing.. laser certification and that sort of thing.

She is making bank while her smarty-pants friends who went to UT for a BA in advertising are living at home with their parents.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:34 pm to
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ITT a bunch of college graduates say that other people’s children should go to trade school.


There's a happy medium there.

Also, it's not that off-the-wall to think that if someone's parents didn't go to college, they should also look elsewhere before considering college. That sort of class distinction isn't considered weird in most countries. We just live in Walt Disney Follow-Your-Dream World.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5709 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:40 pm to
Any trade if and this is a big if in todays world, you show up when you say your going to show up and you do the job on time and on budget. Do those things above and you can just about print money because 90% of your competition won't do those things consistently.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:01 pm to
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That’s why you build a business and hire people under you. Work on your business, not in your business.



If every plumber is the business owner no one digs the trenches or crawls under the house.
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