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re: Cardell Hayes attorney requests NOPD not handle investigation

Posted on 4/16/16 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 9:55 am to
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Which means it is legal to have a firearm in your vehicle as long as it is concealed from public view.


you can have it anywhere in your car
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 9:57 am to
This is a perfect opportunity to teach these free shooting thugs a lesson. He needs to be placed in the express lane to Angola. It needs to stay in the news too.
Posted by Mister Bengal
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 9:58 am to
We heard you the first time
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:02 am to
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so you are saying it is legal to be in possession of a firearm while intoxicated?
. I am not a lawyer but I think you are referring to laws associated with conceal carry permits. Which might state you are not allowed to conceal carry while consuming alcohol.

If what you stated is actuall law then every deer hunter in Louisiana or any gun owner in the state of Louisiana is guilty if they get drunk at the deer camp or in their on home.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:04 am to
to clear up, you can drink and drive with a gun in your car(loaded, as in Will Smith's case)? do you know the law on that?
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:07 am to
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to clear up, you can drink and drive with a gun in your car(loaded, as in Will Smith's case)? do you know the law on that?

Who cares?? The question is:
Can you murder someone for a fender bender?
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:09 am to
I'm not that familiar with LA law, so it's legal to have a gun rack in your truck which is visible to the public?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:11 am to
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If what you stated is actuall law then every deer hunter in Louisiana or any gun owner in the state of Louisiana is guilty if they get drunk at the deer camp or in their on home.


Your analogy is only applicable in a situation where a deer shoots a hunter.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:11 am to
Some of y'all are so damn simple minded I actually feel sorry for y'all
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:12 am to
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Who cares?? The question is:
Can you murder someone for a fender bender?

Actually that isn't the question. The question is, was Hayes using self defense
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290874 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:12 am to
yes, you can carry a gun legally in your car wherever you'd like.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:13 am to
Dp
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:14 am to
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We also know that he was not carrying when he was killed by Hayes


I love how you speak as if you are representing facts. You don't know this.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10761 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:15 am to
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Some of y'all are so damn simple minded I actually feel sorry for y'all

Again, don't over complicate it.
It's a murder case and in due time, you will also see how simple it is.
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:25 am to
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This is a perfect opportunity to teach these free shooting thugs a lesson. He needs to be placed in the express lane to Angola. It needs to

Yeah frick getting evidence and sorting through facts and due process and all that fruity bull corn!
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:29 am to
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The question is, was Hayes using self defense

Again, I am not an attorney, but I do NOT think self-defense will be applicable in this case. IF, Smith rear-ended Hayes in the video and Hayes then pulled over to exchange insurance info at which time Smith fled from the scene. AS SOON AS Hayes chased after the car it no longer falls into the category of self-defense or stand your ground.

IMO opinion this is no different than shooting a burglar in the back after fleeing your property, which is not justifiable compared to shooting the burglar while he is in your home.

ETA: I left out the most important word "NOT"
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10761 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:40 am to
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Again, I am not an attorney, but I do NOT think self-defense will be applicable in this case. IF, Smith rear-ended Hayes in the video and Hayes then pulled over to exchange insurance info at which time Smith fled from the scene. AS SOON AS Hayes chased after the car it no longer falls into the category of self-defense or stand your ground. IMO opinion this is no different than shooting a burglar in the back after fleeing your property, which is not justifiable compared to shooting the burglar while he is in your home. ETA: I left out the most important word "NOT"

Somebody gets it.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:51 am to
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AS SOON AS Hayes chased after the car it no longer falls into the category of self-defense or stand your ground.


simply not true.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 10:54 am to
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tLSU


Chick Foret

quote:

This may sound crazy, but I have decided to write a book on the Will Smith homicide case. I have been covering this case since Sunday a.m.

I have a great many details that I can't completely document, but I am certain they are true.

I have been in the Orleans Parish Criminal Justice system for 40 yrs. I have many sources who give me info. I also see the legal aspects.


Don't underestimate the sports angle & the behind the scenes actions and decisions taking place taking place
.

@chickforet


What's his motivation here? PR move or is there truly someone more going on in this case?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47805 posts
Posted on 4/16/16 at 11:00 am to
it wouldnt surprise me if there is some real pressure from the higher ups to make sure this guy gets convicted no matter what. its not a good look for the city and can cost them hundreds of millions of dollars in events, like say the superbowl, if star former athletes are getting killed after a fender bender and the accused walks.
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