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re: Cardell Hayes attorney requests NOPD not handle investigation
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:19 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:19 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:How the hell do we know if she was going for a gun or not though? We have absolutely no idea.
Unless NOPD straight up covered up everything for the Smiths, there is no way she had a gun. Only one gun was recovered from the scene. So unless we are to believe nothing about what has been reported, it's is basically a certainty she didn't have a weapon.
And there is a shitload of people on scene that could have moved the gun that aren't NOPD
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Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:20 pm to lsupride87
A shite load of people that moved the gun back into Smith's vehicle?
You're reaching really bad on that one and I'm pretty sure you know it.
You're reaching really bad on that one and I'm pretty sure you know it.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:21 pm to LNCHBOX
The frick are you talking about? There was 4-5 people in Smiths party that could have moved the gun.
That isn't a huge reach
That isn't a huge reach
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:21 pm to lsupride87
I will revisit this when Hayes is sent off for the rest of his life for murdering Will Smith as well as attempted murder of Raquel Smith.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:22 pm to 4LSU2
quote:Ok. Won't change the fact you made definitive subjective statements before the facts came out
when Hayes is sent off for the rest of his life for murdering Will Smith as well as attempted murder of
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:24 pm to lsupride87
How closely connected to Hayes are you? Friend or family?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:25 pm to 4LSU2
Good one.
Not making definitive statements about something of which I don't know makes me a relative or friend
You are such an idiot
Not making definitive statements about something of which I don't know makes me a relative or friend
You are such an idiot
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
So let's break this down
4lsu2 makes definitive claims that one person is def guilty, but he isn't a biased saintard
Lsupride87 says he thinks Hayes is guilty but there is no way of knowing yet and we will have to wait to see more facts
So pride must be a relative or friend
Welcome to Merica
4lsu2 makes definitive claims that one person is def guilty, but he isn't a biased saintard
Lsupride87 says he thinks Hayes is guilty but there is no way of knowing yet and we will have to wait to see more facts
So pride must be a relative or friend
Welcome to Merica
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The frick are you talking about? There was 4-5 people in Smiths party that could have moved the gun.
That isn't a huge reach
It's a pretty big reach. That would mean that after Hayes shot Smith and his wife, he sat there and just watched the Smith party hide a gun.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:29 pm to lsupride87
Why would they hide the gun when they're being shot at?
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:31 pm to LNCHBOX
Because Hayes wasn't a mad man like some are portraying and he stopped once he no longer felt threatened?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:32 pm to EarthwormJim
If say it is unlikely they hid the gun, but not a huuuuuge reach
Regardless, there is still a chance they were going for a gun. Which could be argued is enough to make one feel an imminent danger for their life
Regardless, there is still a chance they were going for a gun. Which could be argued is enough to make one feel an imminent danger for their life
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:33 pm to lsupride87
Someone is shooting at you and you're going to hide a gun instead of defend yourself? That's a monumental reach.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:33 pm to lsupride87
My definitive statements have been:
1) Will Smith was killed by Hayes.
2) Raquel Smith was shot twice by Hayes.
3) Will Smith was shot in the back 7 times at the door of his vehicle by Hayes.
4) Raquel Smith was shot twice in the leg by Hayes.
5) Hayes is charged with second degree murder of Will Smith.
6) Hayes followed Smith after being rear-ended by Smith, left the protection of his own vehicle for a physical/ verbal altercation with Smith.
7) Hayes rear-end Smith to get him to stop so that the physical/ verbal altercation could occur.
8) Hayes was not a legal CCP holder by the State of LA.
9) Hayes shot Mr and Mrs Smith with a .45 caliber handgun.
So tell me, which one of my definitive statements are false?? If you're thinking the one about spending the rest of his life at Angola, I ask you to revisit the aforementioned definitive statements and check the sentence for second degree murder, then get back to me.
1) Will Smith was killed by Hayes.
2) Raquel Smith was shot twice by Hayes.
3) Will Smith was shot in the back 7 times at the door of his vehicle by Hayes.
4) Raquel Smith was shot twice in the leg by Hayes.
5) Hayes is charged with second degree murder of Will Smith.
6) Hayes followed Smith after being rear-ended by Smith, left the protection of his own vehicle for a physical/ verbal altercation with Smith.
7) Hayes rear-end Smith to get him to stop so that the physical/ verbal altercation could occur.
8) Hayes was not a legal CCP holder by the State of LA.
9) Hayes shot Mr and Mrs Smith with a .45 caliber handgun.
So tell me, which one of my definitive statements are false?? If you're thinking the one about spending the rest of his life at Angola, I ask you to revisit the aforementioned definitive statements and check the sentence for second degree murder, then get back to me.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:35 pm to 4LSU2
How about the definitive statements that it wasn't self defense and he is guilty of murder?
That seems pretty damn definitive and unknown
That seems pretty damn definitive and unknown
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Won't change the fact you made definitive subjective statements before the facts came out
You don't think this is a definitive subjective statement that YOU are making before the facts came out?
quote:
Because Hayes wasn't a mad man like some are portraying and he stopped once he no longer felt threatened?
You condemn and accuse those that are doing the exact same thing you are. This place never ceases to amaze me...
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:36 pm to LNCHBOX
Hayes was still shooting?
Witnesses say Hayes slammed his gun on the hood of his car and stopped after he shot smith
That leaves 4 minutes before cops arrive
Witnesses say Hayes slammed his gun on the hood of his car and stopped after he shot smith
That leaves 4 minutes before cops arrive
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:36 pm to 4LSU2
quote:
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6) Hayes followed Smith after being rear-ended by Smith, left the protection of his own vehicle for a physical/ verbal altercation with Smith.
not definitive
Smith left protection of his own vehicle first
quote:
7) Hayes rear-end Smith to get him to stop so that the physical/ verbal altercation could occur.
not definitive
quote:
8) Hayes was not a legal CCP holder by the State of LA.
not definitive
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Regardless, there is still a chance they were going for a gun. Which could be argued is enough to make one feel an imminent danger for their life
Still doesbt explain how Hayes had enough time to shoot both of them, unless he had a gun in hand. Which would make self defense impossible for me to understand.
Posted on 4/16/16 at 12:37 pm to Festus
Oh frick off
I was answering with a hypothetical. That was obvious
In no way was I saying he certainly isn't a mad man and wasn't still shooting
Don't play douchebag semantics
I was answering with a hypothetical. That was obvious
In no way was I saying he certainly isn't a mad man and wasn't still shooting
Don't play douchebag semantics
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