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re: Can you read this tombstone? Solve a family puzzle? **SOLVED**

Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

If so he was a captain in the Officers of Company H (Chickasaw Guards), and was killed at Gettysburg on July 3rd (other records show July 4th). In the Eleventh Mississippi Infantry.


That’s a pretty great find by you. One of my ancestors was captured at Vicksburg around the same time. 1st Lieutenant Cooper Co. B, 27th Louisiana regiment.

We still have his parole papers.
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 10:22 pm
Posted by TigerBabeNtheWoods
In a hole.
Member since Sep 2003
9440 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Line looks like “he died” to me...


I agree. I’m going to assume they maybe switched out the original words with “he died”.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31733 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:22 pm to
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I agree. I’m going to assume they maybe switched out the original words with “he died”.


I'm thinking it's a riff on the Davis quote.

"The principle for which [he died] [yet?] ? [and will] reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 10:38 pm
Posted by eiasjsf
Ellensburg, Washington
Member since Sep 2009
511 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

"I will send my children’s children to reverence him who ennobled their name with his heroic blood.

Looks closer to "Let our children's children reverence him who enabled/ennobled their name with his heroic blood"

quote:

The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form”

Seems to me the beginning is more like "The principle for which he died.."
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6709 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:28 pm to
Should have gotten a granite tombstone, not marble.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58894 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:34 pm to
frick yeah man, how did you figure it out?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31733 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:41 pm to
"The principle for which he died yet lives!!! and will reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."

ETA: Pardon my exclamation points, but I think I got it, and it's been driving me fricking crazy
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31733 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:46 pm to
Alright, so my giddiness aside, after reading all of the posts and doing plenty of squinting myself, here's my vote:

J. H Moore

Captain of

H Battle Regiment

Was killed July 3, 1863

in

Battle of Gettysburg

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Let our children's children reverence him who ennobled their name with his heroic blood

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The principle for which he died yet lives and will reassert itself though it may be at another time and in another form
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31733 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:02 pm to
Ok, fun fact:

According to a website that I'm disinclined to link, that Davis quote is from something he said to the Mississippi legislature... in 1871...

"The contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena, and the principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:03 am to
let our children's children....
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 2:07 am
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20903 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:06 am to
quote:

So he was on the good guys’ side at Gettysburg.


Would you rather be living with your good guys in the Confederate States of America?



Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22918 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 2:33 am to
quote:

Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond VA is the oldest large cemetery in the city.


I'd like to visit again some day. The time I went, we got there late on a rainy day and didn't have much time to explore. Some beautiful memorials.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2738 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:22 am to
The south will rise again!!!
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4605 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond VA is the oldest large cemetery in the city.


Final resting place of two US presidents (Monroe and Tyler) and the only CSA president.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1771 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:16 am to
Man I’m stealing that for my Tombstone! I got goosebumps reading it
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60445 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:36 am to
This is what I see:

Let our children’s children
reverence him who ennobled
their name with his heroic blood.

The principle for which he died
here fighting will reassert itself,
though it may be at another
time and in a different form.

The stone mason didn’t carve the exact quote but pretty close.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 9:39 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11296 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Should have gotten a granite tombstone, not marble.


In the 1800's there were none of the diamond tipped band saw blades that are now so common (and necessary) to cut granite.

Most of the tombstones back then were limestone because it could be cut and smoothed. The very white limestone probably came from a (nowadays huge) quarry near Sylacauga Alabama. After the war I don't think many southern families could have afforded to import Carrera marble from Italy. And I doubt that they'd have brought stone down from the north side of the Mason Dixon Line.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35790 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:38 am to
At Arlington they use sand from the beaches of Normandy to rub into the depressions so you can see the words. Pretty cool and it works great.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40594 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:45 am to
And for the geology lesson of the day, this is why you want a granite tombstone instead of marble. The acidity of rain breaks down marble as it’s a metamorphic version of limestone. Another 100 years and it will be worn smooth.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11050 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Should have gotten a granite tombstone, not marble.


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