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re: Can you go a full day without eating processed carbs?

Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:32 pm to
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I'm curious at how a french fry is a processed carb...
Here's the ingredient list for Ore-Ida crinkle cuts:

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Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Contains One Or More Of The Following Oils: Canola, Soybean, Cottonseed, Sunflower, Corn). Contains 2% or less of Annatto (color), Caramel Color, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate Added To Maintain Natural Color


That's the poster child for the OP's point: something that COULD be relatively benign (potatoes fried in animal fat) turns into frankenfood of ridiculous ingredients cooked in industrial seed oils.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:41 pm to
Zero.

I am keto
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28698 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:42 pm to
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If its fried in a seed oil then its extremely bad for you.

If its fried in something like beef tallow it still isn't something you should be eating too often but its one of life's great pleasures.


I cook everything in either olive oil or bacon fat, and guess what I'm fat with absolutely perfect cholesterol levels.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132617 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:57 am to
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If you are counting generally unprocessed carbs like rice I literally couldn't make it 24 hours or my body would shut down. This time of year my caloric intake is about 3800 and roughly 2400 of that will be white/beige carbs or roughly 600 grams.


You must be running, biking or swimming at least four times a week. If not you probably have some weight to lose.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132617 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:11 am to
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I cook everything in either olive oil or bacon fat, and guess what I'm fat with absolutely perfect cholesterol levels.


The seed oils are bad for you because to extract the oil from the seeds the seeds are heated, squeezed then soadked in a solvent to extract the last bits of oil. The solvent is then distilled off and you are left with the seed oil at the bottom of the distillation column.

Molecularly this does a bad thing to the oil...it strips a couple of hydrogens off the oil chain and introduces carbon double bonds in the chain. Once this happens the chain goes from straight to curvy. This is also known as unsaturated...the chain is unsaturated with hydrogen atoms. Saturated oils and fats have their full complement of hydrogen atoms. They lay straight. They also tend to be solid at room temperature like butter, lard, duck fat, coconut oil and tallow. Curvy chain oils are bad because they are sticky and like to go to places in your circulatory system where the glycocalyx is damaged.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:15 am to
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6 whole oranges


Does this mean I have to eat the peel? Because then yes I agree, i probably cant.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5259 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:25 am to
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You'd have had to consume 27,500 calories in that 36 hours for that to be close to possible.




Not even close. Don't know where you came up with this nonsense. You must not weigh yourself much or never binge. I've gained 9lbs over a weekend. And it's gone within 2 days. I vary 3-4lbs a day from morning to night.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:27 am to
I actually did this for weeks during Covid when I had the time to do it. After 10 days of being lethargic, the weight started falling off of me and I got a huge energy boost. That was damn nice.

Addiction level isn't the problem for me.

The problem is convenience. Time is my most valuable resource, and I don't have time to grill fish or meat for the bigger meals very often. I guess to a lesser extent, the problem is also cost as eggs and bacon have grown so much in price in the past 2 years.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
8448 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:32 am to
I eat Kodiak Cakes chocolate chip bar in the morning.

Potatoes/eggs/avocados in the late morning.

Some sort of protein in the early afternoon.

Dinner is usually protein/rice/veg.

Sometimes I'll have cereal for dessert.

I think I'd have no issue kicking the bar and the cereal, but I don't want to. I like them and my diet is better than 99% of people I know personally.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:50 am to
Can I? Yes.

Am I today? No. Still have lots of leftover tortillas from a birthday party so I'm doing a big thing of taco meat to get rid of them.

I'm about to get back on the grind, though. Typical day:

Coffee (I'm about to get more serious about IF so it will be black and 1 hour after I wake up min) around 630-730.

Eat lunch around 1130-1230. Will be a protein and green mix (steamed kale/broc and shaved carrots). After will be an apple.


Eat a light snack around 230-330. Usually some cut cheese (do you count these as processed carbs?) and nuts.


Eat dinner around 630-700. Protein, veg mix, and apple. Maybe a little more nuts/cheese.

Brush teeth by 8pm so no more eating.

It's not that difficult and if I start off the period with some ribeyes or picanha or skirt steak, it's not even difficult to get the body used to the carb stuff. After 3 days it's nothing.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74962 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:50 am to
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Not even close. Don't know where you came up with this nonsense. You must not weigh yourself much or never binge. I've gained 9lbs over a weekend. And it's gone within 2 days. I vary 3-4lbs a day from morning to night
That's not a real gain of weight, it's just the fluctuation of fluid and food intake or retention. I was talking about a real gain of 7 pounds. If I drink a gallon of water and weigh myself I've "gained" 8 pounds, but not truly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:51 am to
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The problem is convenience. Time is my most valuable resource, and I don't have time to grill fish or meat for the bigger meals very often. I guess to a lesser extent, the problem is also cost as eggs and bacon have grown so much in price in the past 2 years.

Yeah since Covid my responsibilities changed dramatically and I haven't adequately been able to figure out the proper routine and deal with life's curveballs. My dog getting diabetes last July has completely changed my morning routine and it's been really bad for my health.

I have to get serious about this stuff, though.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35185 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:06 am to
I can go a full day without eating, I do a full 24 hour fast every few months.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132617 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:12 am to
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Does this mean I have to eat the peel? Because then yes I agree, i probably cant.



No.

6 navel oranges peeled versus 6 navel oranges squeezed.

The squeezed will go down really easy and you will have room for a sandwich.

Eating all the peeled oranges will be much more difficult to eat and your craving for food after will be nil.

The point is to show the difference between processed and unprocessed carbs. Both the peeled and squeezed have the same number of calories however the squeezed will give you a much higher insulin spike and you are still hungry.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34768 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:34 am to
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I just know cooked potatoes is an easy starch for our bodies to break down into sugars so IMO you can lump potatoes into the the processed carb category. Just like rice.


i get where you are going with this but 3 things

1) rice and potatoes are not processed at all.

2) the amount of carbs you take in doesnt matter when it comes to body fat loss. what matters is overall calories and protein. Now if you find it easier to stick to a caloric deficiet eating low carb than have at it. All of these diets like keto, carnivore, intermittent fasting etc etc etc are all just stratgies used to keep people consistently in a caloric deficiet. we have dozens upon dozens of studies that show once calories and protein are equated,body fat loss is the same.

with that said i do encourage people to eat lower carbs becasue people gorge on them and have zero concept of how much they are eating at all especially when processed and combined with fat.

3) carbs and sugar are not really addicting in the sense of things like cocaine(i use this example as there are tons of memes about sugar being more addictive than cocaine). and if it was, people wouldnt be able to keep 5lbs bag of pure processed sugar in the house.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35185 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:34 am to
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Don't know where you came up with this nonsense.


Because you have to consume ~3500 calories (plus your calorie burn from your metabolic rate) in order to gain a single pound of actual weight. As he said, you can drink a gallon of water and gain 8 lbs, but that isn't "real" weight, which is why you should weigh yourself before you break your fast.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34768 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:36 am to
quote:

No.

6 navel oranges peeled versus 6 navel oranges squeezed.

The squeezed will go down really easy and you will have room for a sandwich.

Eating all the peeled oranges will be much more difficult to eat and your craving for food after will be nil.

The point is to show the difference between processed and unprocessed carbs. Both the peeled and squeezed have the same number of calories however the squeezed will give you a much higher insulin spike and you are still hungry.



thats not true if you eat the squeeze and eat the full orange.

so if i take 6 naval oranges peeled and put them in a blender and make juice from them, it will be exactly the same as if i ate them.

if you just squeeze the juice out....sure you are leaving all the fiber behind.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34768 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:37 am to
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Because you have to consume ~3500 calories (plus your calorie burn from your metabolic rate) in order to gain a single pound of actual weight. As he said, you can drink a gallon of water and gain 8 lbs, but that isn't "real" weight, which is why you should weigh yourself before you break your fast.


no to gain an actual pound of fat...muscle is less
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34768 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:40 am to
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Someone who used to be a lardass is the best person to give diet advice.


no he is using a 1 off expierence to try and give diet advice.

and some like carbs for performance, some for hypertrophy.

believe it or not, some people actually weigh and track their food so they no whats best for them and in what amounts.
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