re: #CampFire Death Toll Likely to Surge as Over 1,000 Now Unaccounted For

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I wonder if they will rethink their policy on controlled burns after this

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I doubt it. Last I heard they're just going to blame it in the electric utility and try to take it over with the public sector. The typical overemotional reaction is to blame, not get introspective. Third world type shite

Never miss a chance to do socialist things.

Sad situation. What really infuriated me was watching the other day as a local fire chief or politician (can’t remember??), yelled at everyone about how this is caused by climate change. Like for one fricking minute, can we try to avoid turning a tragedy into some political talking point?

From what i’ve Read they weren’t clearing brush, Weren’t doing things you do to prevent massive wildfires.

If i’m misinformed please educate me

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From what i’ve Read they weren’t clearing brush, Weren’t doing things you do to prevent massive wildfires.

If i’m misinformed please educate me

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They control burn a few hundred thousand acres a year. The people regurgitating this nonsense are idiots

The area burned and number of fires has been steadily decreasing for 20+ years.. this is just reactionary drama and gotchas in an outlier year

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They control burn a few hundred thousand acres a year. The people regurgitating this nonsense are idiots

The area burned and number of fires has been steadily decreasing for 20+ years.. this is just reactionary drama and gotchas in an outlier year

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So this area that is burning is the worse fire in the history of California and they’ve actually done things to prevent this?

Makes sense

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What happened that there was so much fuel?

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Decent wet seasons last couple of years followed by a prolonged hot and extremely dry summer. Soil moisture readings in the area were in the 97th percentile for low moisture on record. Offshore winds howling, with relative humidities riding 2%. Unless they just fricking killed and removed all the tree debris, it was only going to take a decent spark to get them going and go far and fast.

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If I'm misinformed please educate me

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I can't speak to what was or wasn't happening on private property in Paradise, CA.

However, in multiple threads on the OT and the Poli Board over the past week, there has been a reoccurring theme of "California doesn't allow prescribed burns". I'm here to tell you that's bullshite.

California is fricked up in many ways and they have more rules than Catholic school, but CalFire does do prescribed burns. Maybe not as many as an unlimited budget, perfect weather conditions and lower air quality standards would allow, but they burned ~19,000 acres in 2017 and ~17,000 in 2016. Their stated target goal is to burn 20,000 acres of the state lands they manage.

Which brings us to land ownership ...

The Federal Govt owns 57% of the land in CA. That's good news for Donald Trump, who as of late, seems to be concerned about forest and land management policy in CA.

Forty percent of land is corporately or privately owned, or controlled by Indian tribes.

The State of California owns 3% of the land in California.

Read that drought and weevils killed 129 MILLION trees in CA
unreal

ETA I have seen mountains sides in Wyoming with ten of thousands of dead pine trees from pine weevils. They do controlled burns to clear that stuff out, unbelievable to see an entire mountain side burned to the ground

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So this area that is burning is the worse fire in the history of California and they’ve actually done things to prevent this?

Makes sense

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