re: #CampFire Death Toll Likely to Surge as Over 1,000 Now Unaccounted For

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I doubt it. Last I heard they're just going to blame it in the electric utility and try to take it over with the public sector. The typical overemotional reaction is to blame, not get introspective. Third world type shite

Never miss a chance to do socialist things.

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Spoke with my aunt who lives in SB and she literally blamed "climate change" what in the mf'ing frick! People in Cali have lost their brains when it comes to this.

With that said, I hope there is no further loss of life.

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However, in multiple threads on the OT and the Poli Board over the past week, there has been a reoccurring theme of "California doesn't allow prescribed burns". I'm here to tell you that's bullshite. 

California is fricked up in many ways and they have more rules than Catholic school, but CalFire does do prescribed burns. Maybe not as many as an unlimited budget, perfect weather conditions and lower air quality standards would allow, but they burned ~19,000 acres in 2017 and ~17,000 in 2016. Their stated target goal is to burn 20,000 acres of the state lands they manage. 

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LINK

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“After aggressively suppressing fires for the last 100 years we have put our forests in a state of peril,” said Calfire Chief Thom Porter.

As a result, our communities are also in peril. It’s a situation largely of our own making, says Calfire.

By abstaining from controlled burns year after year, unchecked growth has multiplied, dried out and created a tinderbox. The overgrowth has fueled deadly, out-of-control wildfires like the Carr Fire near Redding that took the lives of a four- and five-year-old.

That same fire killed two firefighters and injured three from Marin County when flames hit a big path of dry, overgrown brush.

“Prescribed burns alone will not stop that, but it is a tool that we can use to reduce the effect of those large fires,” said Porter.

Calfire currently has a goal of burning 20,000 acres a year, a goal put into place in 2016.

Last year.. Calfire came close with 19,000 acres control-burned. But two years ago, only 13,000 acres were burned while the previous three years each saw only around 3,000 acres burned.

“If we had made this investment 10 or 20 years ago we would have seen – in some areas – smaller, less damaging fires.”

Part of that has been a funding and resource issue, Calfire says. But it’s also come from pushback

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I heard that the Paradise (Camp) fire moved through the city at a rate of 8 football fields a minute. No one had a chance. Sounds like literal hell.

I can't even imagine having a home one day and the next day it's all gone.

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I can't even imagine having a home one day and the next day it's all gone.

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You would simply be happy to be alive in this situation. My cousins live in San Rafael just outside of San Fran, and the couple they bought their house from retired and moved out to Paradise.

They checked in with them and the couple made it out alive, but had a harrowing escape that left them with burns and shite

For most of these people this isn’t like a hurricane where you know ahead of time and evacuate and pray your home makes it. You wake up to a fire and pray you make it out alive

The way that the side of the mountain has been terraced for roads looks like a trap for the people living higher up. Where is the road down the mountain?

You know they won’t. Unfortunately kooky environmentalist have already dubbed these fires a result of man made climate change and not a result of an accumulation of fuel that leads to uncontrolled infernos

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This type of shite is what happens in the aftermath of major natural disaster.

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Agreed but this is not a natural disaster and is 100% self inflicted by the peoples of the area.

Anyone remember the watering bans last year? When you plant a desert and then stop watering it this is the result. The government by the will of the people stops all small fires and lets conditions escalate to where we are now.

While the scope is not as big as Katrina, it wasn't limited to one town. There are about 100k evacuees of the various fires around the state, and millions more affected by the smoke. With regard to the Camp Fire, what's shocking is the speed at which it blew up and the thoroughness with which it annihilated a small city.

I don’t disagree and understand the scope and tragedy. But honestly it’s not on the same scale as other natural disasters, in particular Katrina, which it is being compared.

I guess I’m a little put off when some parts of the country are ignored by government and media when a natural disaster strikes. The 2016 flood was given little coverage by the national media diispite having a more devastating affect. Gulfport was hardly mentioned after Katrina. That being said, Its sad what is happening in California , they are definitely in my prayers.