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Calling rds dc and other weather experts: Tornado outbreak next Monday - Tuesday?

Posted on 11/2/18 at 7:20 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66988 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 7:20 am
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Start us an informative thread about this potential.

TIA

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...DISCUSSION... Potential exists for a significant severe event to transpire day 4 (Monday) into day 5 (Tuesday) mainly from the lower MS Valley into the Southeast States. Model solutions have converged and demonstrated run to run consistency, depicting significant cyclogenesis to commence by Monday evening over the lower MS Valley in response to an approaching intense upper jet within base of an amplifying shortwave trough. The low is forecast to deepen as it lifts northeast into IL overnight with trailing cold front advancing through the TN and lower MS valley regions. Richer low-level moisture residing over the northern Gulf will advect rapidly northward through the warm sector in response to the strengthening low-level jet, contributing to destabilization with moderate instability possible from east TX into a portion of the Gulf Coast states. Severe storms are likely to develop along advancing cold front Monday afternoon initially from southeast OK into east TX, then spreading into the lower MS Valley and TN Valley regions Monday night. Impressive wind profiles with large hodographs and an intense upper jet will promote a threat for damaging wind, tornadoes and large hail. Severe threat will continue east through portions of the Southeast states and Middle Atlantic Tuesday.

Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70813 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 7:22 am to
The weather folks here in Houston expect some rain but nothing severe. The futurecast almost looked like it dissipated a bit as it got to New Orleans. I am unsure what area you are concerned with though.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 7:23 am to
I know Wednesday night sucked. Not looking forward to more weather like that.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 7:27 am to
My power still isn't back on from weds storm. I hope this next ones chills the frick out.
This post was edited on 11/2/18 at 7:28 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51948 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 7:34 am to
This looks like it could be a very significant severe weather event for parts of the southeast. Maybe one of the more significant fall severe weather events we’ve had in the last few years. But, it’s still too early to be very specific.

This is from the National Weather Service office in Birmingham:

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The shortwave on Sunday night will serve as a primer wave for the next system developing to our west on Monday. A wide area of rich moisture will be lurking near the Gulf Coast, poised to move inland Monday afternoon and evening as wind fields respond to a shortwave entering the Southern Plains. Models are coming into agreement on a potentially dangerous setup Monday night into Tuesday morning across a large area which includes Alabama. The GFS and ECMWF are in good agreement with the evolution of the synoptic pattern, showing a low-amplitude shortwave taking on a negative tilt Monday night to our northwest. This pattern has the look of a classic severe weather outbreak and would support a rapidly deepening surface low tracking toward the Great Lakes with significant pressure falls extending southward into Alabama. With dewpoints rising into the upper 60s to perhaps 70F, instability appears more than sufficient for deep convection within a very highly sheared environment. Taken at face value, the ECMWF shows semi-discrete supercells capable of producing long-track, significant tornadoes across the northern half of our forecast area on Tuesday morning. The HWO will be updated to include a moderate confidence threat for tornadoes and damaging winds across the entire forecast area. With this threat still around 96 hours out and models subject to change, we will refrain from going all in on the potential for a tornado outbreak.
This post was edited on 11/2/18 at 7:38 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:18 am to
I'm sure rds will have some sort of thread up by Sunday if the models keep going this direction. SPC currently has North Louisiana and Mississippi pegged for the Tuesday threat next week. Birmingham NWS is plenty experienced with tornado events, so if they're concerned I'd be concerned too.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21673 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:24 am to
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This looks like it could be a very significant severe weather event for parts of the southeast.


Day 4 30% is pretty strong coming from SPC.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70813 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:41 am to
Idk like I said at least here in Houston they don’t expect a whole lot.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87727 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:43 am to
Is this a little abnormal? I know winter tornado outbreaks in the SE are becoming a near yearly occurrence, but this is early for that, isn't it?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132614 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:44 am to
This is normal severe weather season in south i though
Posted by Lynyrd
Under the Tilt-a-Whirl
Member since Jun 2010
13386 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:45 am to
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SPC currently has North Louisiana

Wonderful. Ugh.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Is this a little abnormal? I know winter tornado outbreaks in the SE are becoming a near yearly occurrence, but this is early for that, isn't it?


We get a "second" tornado season in the deep south as the weather changes but it seems a little more juiced with the budding El Nino bringing a little extra energy in the subtropical jet.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51948 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Is this a little abnormal? I know winter tornado outbreaks in the SE are becoming a near yearly occurrence, but this is early for that, isn't it?

No, we are now into the fall-winter tornado season. It's the early part of the season, but we are in it.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148001 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:42 am to
as I posted in the other tornado thread when they started talking about this new threat...

Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50016 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 10:44 am to
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Is this a little abnormal?


It might be a little early this year and it isn't talked about much but there is a tornado / severe weather season that takes place around thanksgiving every year.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:11 pm to
RDS touched on this event a few days ago in the other storm thread early Thursday am. Will be interesting to watch. I'm guessing it gathers strength and steam after TX.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66988 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:29 pm to
I found this chart. It's a little old and I think Alabama and other southern states are in line with this chart

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Calling rds dc




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other weather experts




This post was edited on 11/2/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:39 pm to
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It might be a little early this year and it isn't talked about much but there is a tornado / severe weather season that takes place around thanksgiving every year.


You can say that again. I suspect y’all are part of a plot to convince people that the fall/early winter is a severe storm/tornado season for the south.
Never heard of this before, and never remember this season being particularly bad.

So who’s paying you? Soros?
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26442 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 2:05 pm to
It’s just rain calm the F down.
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