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TH03
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
It's not bad. Taking away something fun vs taking away a class they don't even like.


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arcalades
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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Suspensions don't really work though. There should be repercussions, but not in the form of suspension. All you're doing is taking a problem child and making them worse.


irrelevant. The point is to stop the disruption. Let the guardians solve the matter or not solve the matter. Getting the disruption out of the classroom helps the other students.


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The Boat
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
What if they find a butter knife from breakfast in a kid’s car?


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beerJeep
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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No kid gives a frick about missing their western civ class but take away the only time they have to socialize and it might deter bad behavior. I can tell you letting them sit at home and watch tv or post on social media isn’t much of a deterrent. And then they come back further behind and more disruptive.


Here’s the thing, toots. I don’t give a frick if sending them home is a deterrent. It gets the shite kids out of the school away from the kids who give a frick.

A shite kid will stay a shite kid by the time they’re in high school. Keep them away from the kids who care.


TH03
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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A shite kid will stay a shite kid by the time they’re in high school. Keep them away from the kids who care


Might as well just lock them up then according to that logic. Or just cull the herd.


PearlJam
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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A shite kid will stay a shite kid by the time they’re in high school.
This bill references k-8th grade.


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beerJeep
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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Might as well just lock them up then according to that logic.


Nope. There should be a partition after 8th grade. Trouble kids go to a tech school and learn a trade from 9th grade on. Non trouble kids go to normal high school.


Godfather1
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
Said it in the Poli Board thread on this: Lex Luthor’s idea of detonating a couple of nukes along the San Andreas fault line is looking more and more appealing every day.


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TH03
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Nope. There should be a partition after 8th grade. Trouble kids go to a tech school and learn a trade from 9th grade on. Non trouble kids go to normal high school.


This doesn't sound like a dystopian future or anything.


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SlowFlowPro
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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Sen. Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, who wrote the new law, said it would “keep kids in school where they belong and where teachers and counselors can help them thrive.”

destroying the educations and potentials of so many kids in the process. brilliant


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High C
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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Nope. There should be a partition after 8th grade. Trouble kids go to a tech school and learn a trade from 9th grade on. Non trouble kids go to normal high school.


I've argued this for a long time, with some additions. Not just trouble kids, but kids who have no interest in going to college. They can go to a tech school during their high school years and be career ready at 17-18. Parents, you have a kid that you think will be college material at the end of high school, but hasn't shown it through 8th grade? Make academics competitive, like some other countries do. You don't make the academic cut, you go to tech school and learn a trade. It's not like tech school is a punishment, hell, most of them make more money than I do by a lot. If the trouble kid can't handle tech school, get them a manual labor job.


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Packer
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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Trouble kids go to a tech school and learn a trade from 9th grade on.


So let's throw all of the trouble kids into one school and hope they make a productive workforce?


TheBorg
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
Louisiana ranks in the bottom 5 of almost any metric including education. Pretty sure we haven't earned the right to criticize what any other state wants to do with their systems and taxes.


DeafJam73
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Three days of lunch detention. Eat last, sit at a separate table.




Wow. Did they only give him white milk instead of chocolate, too?


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High C
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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Louisiana ranks in the bottom 5 of almost any metric including education. Pretty sure we haven't earned the right to criticize what any other state wants to do with their systems and taxes.


So, you think ending out of school suspensions is going to move us up the ranks?


jennBN
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
Well clearly you are living in the right place! Maybe California should look to Louisiana for education ideas.


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Scruffy
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So, you think ending out of school suspensions is going to move us up the ranks?
Getting those kids out of the classrooms and focusing on the ones who want to learn will improve LA schools.


TheBorg
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Member since Jul 2013
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re: California bans suspending disruptive/defiant students
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So, you think ending out of school suspensions is going to move us up the ranks?


But we have ISS and Behavioral Intervention Programs. And this is Pre-K up to Middle School for the next five years. I think keeping students with behavioral issues in school with appropriate counseling and "therapy" (for lack of a better word) will help them achieve a higher graduation rate.

And if it doesn't work, frick 'em...it's California.


tigerfoot
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All that being said, us Californians would love to secede. Please call your representatives and request that our massive economy be booted from your country.
noted.


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WhiskeyThrottle
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Getting those kids out of the classrooms and focusing on the ones who want to learn will improve LA schools.


I think we should reconsider the whole, "no child left behind" thing. The earlier kids learn what failure is, the better off we are.


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