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re: CAFE standards terminated, Hilux trucks back on the menu boys
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:29 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:29 pm to hawgfaninc
Now do the refrigerant standards
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:29 pm to hawgfaninc
I grew up loving the S10, Ranger, T100, and the Datsun. I really miss those small trucks. One of my favorite trucks I ever had was an S10 Baja.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:38 pm to RIPMachoMan
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Nothing more American than a Toyota Hilux
You're not entirely wrong. How many 19 year olds got to hear, "contact right," and got to light one up?
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:49 pm to BigBinBR
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Vehicle manufacturers were more worried about squeezing out .5 MPG out of a vehicle and didn’t give a shite about reliability.
Yea, lets cut all the internals in an engine in half so that half of them just stop moving every time you go downhill and then jerk back into action on the way up.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:52 pm to hawgfaninc
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…lower costs for American consumers…
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:54 pm to Civildawg
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Now do the refrigerant standards
YES!!!
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:55 pm to hawgfaninc
Auto engineers right now
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:57 pm to hawgfaninc
Lowering the price of cars for Americans would have been my main regulatory push. The high cost of cars fuels high cost of insurance. Add gas and maintenance and a car is a $1000 monthly expensive for many, or higher. That’s outrageous.
Remove barriers to making lower cost cars.
Remove barriers to car companies selling direct to buyers.
Give tax credits for cars sold below $30,000 and require car companies to make a certain number of such cars.
Giving credits to subsidize high end electric vehicles was always the wrong way to go in my book.
Basically, we should all be driving Japanese k trucks.
And impose far stiffer penalties for speeding, tailgating and other reckless operation.
Remove barriers to making lower cost cars.
Remove barriers to car companies selling direct to buyers.
Give tax credits for cars sold below $30,000 and require car companies to make a certain number of such cars.
Giving credits to subsidize high end electric vehicles was always the wrong way to go in my book.
Basically, we should all be driving Japanese k trucks.
And impose far stiffer penalties for speeding, tailgating and other reckless operation.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:05 pm to hawgfaninc
Won't change anything takes 5-7 years for them to retool.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:09 pm to LSUtiger89
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Based on size. The bigger the vehicle the less mpg they had to achieve.
Typical govt. So instead of actual better fuel efficiency we just get bigger heavier vehicles that use more fuel an cause more road wear
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:14 pm to deltaland
That chicken tax ain't going nowhere baws. Until they get rid of that forget the Hilux and all the other bad arse compact trucks out there
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:17 pm to ned nederlander
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Remove barriers to car companies selling direct to buyers.
Why do people think the manufacturers what to deal with customers? They dont. They get their money from the dealer once the product is on the lot. Why on earth would they change that? On top of that the dealership takes on customer complaints and customer bs. On top of that you as a customer give away any leverage you have to shop around because a manufacturer is not going to give you a discount to earn your business. You'll forever pay MRSP.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:25 pm to Tider13
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Why do people think the manufacturers what to deal with customers? They dont.
Tesla sells directly to customers, and they had the best selling car on the planet last year.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:27 pm to ned nederlander
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Basically, we should all be driving Japanese k trucks.
This is profoundly stupid.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:29 pm to Tider13
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Why do people think the manufacturers what to deal with customers?
They don't need to. You order on Ford.com, select a dealer, and the dealer has frick all to do with the transaction until they tell you it came off the truck.
Leverage to shop around? LOL. You retards decide you need a new truck in December yesterday, and think you have any leverage?
You clearly don't get that most people have been paying way over MSRP since 2020 due to dealer fees, which are completely avoided by pricing out on manufacturer websites and ordering there.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:31 pm to cgrand
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that had more to do with crash safety standards than CAFE.
Wrong lol
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:37 pm to LemmyLives
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You clearly don't get that most people have been paying way over MSRP since 2020 due to dealer fees, which are completely avoided by pricing out on manufacturer websites and ordering there.
You are aware that not every manufacturer allows you to order your personal build.
unless something has changed recently, you can't order a toyota to your spec. They make em and you need to find the one that meets your requirements. Not everyone works like Porsche.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:49 pm to 3deadtrolls
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Knock all that out and then maybe we can get GM to re-release the 1998 Silverado Z71.
frick yes. Bring back the two door Tahoe while we’re at it
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:12 pm to gmac8604
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Pres looked at survey numbers, leaned toward majority group. No individual principal or ideology.
So he gave the people what they wanted. Literally Hitler.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:12 pm to gmac8604
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This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 11:13 pm
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