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re: Buc-ee’s timeline altered due to DOTD studies

Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:59 am to
Posted by John88
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:59 am to
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:02 am to
DOTD might should focus effort on fixing the potholes in the granny lane between Ruston and Minden????
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7684 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:07 am to
A look at the incentives that brought Buc-ee’s to Ruston
quote:

The city will reimburse Buc-ee’s its portion of sales and property tax revenue for 20 years. West says even with the incentives, Ruston will still make money.

“The other businesses that potentially will come with Buc-ee’s, they will not get those sales tax incentives,” explained West. “The city will generate revenue off of that.”

The Lincoln Parish Police Jury and Lincoln Parish School Board will also return their portion of sales tax revenue for two decades, while the Lincoln Parish Sheriff’s Office will return their share of Buc-ee’s property tax…

Ruston is also setting up an 80-acre economic development district allowing Buc-ee’s to recoup an additional 2% in sales tax over 20 years.

It amazes me how much you have to give up to incentivize a company to open a store here.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 9:09 am
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7188 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:12 am to
Ok Buc-ee's is super popular now and wants to locate one in Ruston next to the little pig trail that we call an 'interstate'.
So since Buc-ee's is so popular we will need a larger off ramp so make the damn thing four lanes wide with shoulders on each side in case someone gets lost. It will need traffic lights that are computer synchronized, put'em. Folks will need to get back on the interstate so do the same for the on ramps.
Also build all that so when it rains it doesn't flood.
It's not rocket surgery.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20275 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:15 am to
quote:

So since Buc-ee's is so popular we will need a larger off ramp so make the damn thing four lanes wide with shoulders on each side in case someone gets lost. It will need traffic lights that are computer synchronized, put'em. Folks will need to get back on the interstate so do the same for the on ramps.
Also build all that so when it rains it doesn't flood.


This is probably 99% accurate
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24965 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:27 am to
They haven’t yet paid off enough politicians yet.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60697 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:32 am to
I drove through Auburn, Alabama last week. They have a Buc-ee’s going up, they look to be open within a few weeks. They have signs for hiring posted. It’s around 15 mins from campus.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:46 am to
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Good for Louisiana! Who does Bucees think they are wanting to come into our state and spend millions of their dirty money?


But do they spend more than the fplks they are putting out of business and the folks who will be displaced so folks can buy more beef jerky.

Why folks clammer for national chains to come in and displace local business while directing all profits out of the local community baffles me, it is the worst possible thing that can happen to a community.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:47 am to
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It amazes me how much you have to give up to incentivize a company to open a store here.


Those incentives aren't the ones that could screw the city.

The capped utility prices is what could be bad.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54847 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:27 am to
Sent this thread to my friends at MDOT. Needless to say, they are laughing their asses off
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3322 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:30 am to
quote:

“The DOTD requires a traffic study that will take 180 days,” said Walker. “At the same time there has to be an interchange and modification report that will take 12 months.


The 180 day study isn't a big deal here. Traffic impact studies are usually born by the developer.

The 12 month interchange modification should happen concurrently with the gas station construction. There's no reason it can't happen at the same time. Those Buc-ee's are huge and take at least that long to build. So customer traffic isn't going to be a problem for a while.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39201 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:34 am to
[quote]The 12 month interchange modification should happen concurrently with the gas station construction[/quote

I read this as they will need 12 months to do a report on the modification, not the actual construction of the modification
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
7237 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:35 am to
180 day traffic study? In Ruston?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102368 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:45 am to
quote:

The 180 day study isn't a big deal here. Traffic impact studies are usually born by the developer.


I was in Port Angeles, WA a while back, which is about the size of Ruston. I noticed they had several really nice hotels on the road into town, nicer than you'd expect in a town that size off the beaten path. I asked someone about it. They said when the traffic study was done, the mayor started a campaign for everybody to go out there and drive over the counter thingy as many times as possible.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3322 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:17 am to
quote:

I was in Port Angeles, WA a while back, which is about the size of Ruston. I noticed they had several really nice hotels on the road into town, nicer than you'd expect in a town that size off the beaten path. I asked someone about it. They said when the traffic study was done, the mayor started a campaign for everybody to go out there and drive over the counter thingy as many times as possible.





That's brilliant.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6316 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:19 am to
West bound from the horse track to Shreveport?

I challenge anyone to find a worse section of interstate in the country.

Just the other day, we went through there and I took 220 around Shreveport, the daughters says “it’s faster to stay on I-20” my reply

But it’s the Cheaper route taking the loop, we won’t have to have a new alignment for the car.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1109 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:34 am to
Not far from me DOTD took three years to rebuild a bridge 8/10-mile long on a country back road highway. Three freaking years. This was just the actual demolition and construction phase, not the traffic study. It obviously didn’t inconvenience thousands of people on a daily basis but it did make life inconvenient for us.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40223 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Lol here we go


Gotta keep those consultants busy and they need time for the right contractors to get in line.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3322 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Millerville, yes (IMO, that would have been a cluster for traffic)



Millerville was 4 lanes already since shortly after the Target was built though. Despite that I don't think it was a great spot for this because of the traffic on I-12 specifically (not Millerville).

The place where they want to build this near Ruston was recently upgraded, but it's probably going to need to be expanded again. It's a similar format to the new Juban Crossing interchange in Livingston that they built 10 years or so ago with the turn lanes and semi-controlled access...except the overpass itself is only 2 lanes wide with turn lanes. It probably should be 4 lanes with dual turn lanes.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6456 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:52 am to
quote:

there has to be an interchange and modification report that will take 12 months. 


I thought there are computer programs that do this. One day at most.
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