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re: Bring Scout home UPDATE PAGE 8

Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:09 pm to
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how am I wrong?


Finders keepers ain't the law.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:09 pm to
Why not just cut the dog in half, and then everyone will be happy?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:12 pm to
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Finders keepers ain't the law.


So sue the shelter then

I have a feeling the shelter might win though as I doubt they would have the 7 day policy without some type of precedent
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Wimp Lo
My nipples look like Milk Duds
Member since Aug 2016
4548 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:19 pm to
let me see if I could put it in a way that will help you understand. It would be like if someone found your registered handgun on the ground and then sold it to a pawn shop. The pawn shop then sells your weapon to someone else. That weapon is still rightfully yours and would be returned to you by law enforcement.
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:19 pm to
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If the people really cared so much about the dog, it would have been chipped, or at least had proper identification.


I definitely agree with that. I asked if there was a shot record, chip, or any kind of legal documentation. They self administered the shots from the feed store(which a lot of people do). Unfortunately there is probably no legal recourse because of the lack of a paper trail.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:21 pm to
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It would be like if someone found your registered handgun on the ground and then sold it to a pawn shop. The pawn shop then sells your weapon to someone else. That weapon is still rightfully yours and would be returned to you by law enforcement.



I really don't think this analogy works

I really don't know how the shelter laws work, but they have to have some type of precedent when it comes to the 7 day policy

would the owners have legal recourse if the shelter killed the dog?

and if your analogy works, then they should just call the cops and get their dog back, no?

they know where she lives and her name and everything
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:23 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Wimp Lo
My nipples look like Milk Duds
Member since Aug 2016
4548 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:25 pm to
I'll concede that there could be a legal precedent that I am unaware of. however, the analogy is perfectly fine.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted by amo3822
Member since Sep 2015
335 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:27 pm to
i dont give a F why they were down here, you're not a "great person" if you rescued a dog, original dog owners locate you and want their dog that they clearly adore but are denied getting him back. POS in my opinion
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:28 pm to
One of our dogs got out, got picked up down the street 5 minutes after getting out but we didn't have a tag on him. Lady brought him to the Humane Society to read the chip.

When we adopted him 3 years ago the chip was never transferred to our name, and we had to wait the 7 days to re-adopt our dog and pay all the fees etc.

I made it extremely clear with the highest level person i could find in the city over Animal Control that there would be hell to pay if my dog was adopted by someone else or accidentally put down. He tried to intervene with the Humane Society but they would not budge with that 7 day rule. Once the 7th day passed the dog could be put up for adoption again as the Humane Society now had legal possession. I ended up showing up 2.5 hours before they opened on day 7 to make sure no one else got my dog.

TL;DR they're real strict about that 7 day rule and how ownership is transferred after that. The only way to prove your the owner is a chip.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:29 pm to
They should've taken their dog back and worried about the reprocussions later
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:36 pm to
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TL;DR they're real strict about that 7 day rule and how ownership is transferred after that. The only way to prove your the owner is a chip.



yeah I'm really bored so I've been trying to research shelter laws and it varies by state, but after a set amount of days, the shelter has the right to pretty much do whatever they want with the animal

the 7 day period is there for the owner the claim the dog, but they have to provide some type of documentation to prove they own the dog

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47667 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:37 pm to
The man and woman who own the dog are a deputy and an RN. The deputy surely knows an attorney that can clear this up with the quickness. I would go get my dog.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:39 pm to
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legally she now claims to own the dog


Fify. The court may see this very differently, especially if chipped.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:39 pm to
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if chipped.


it wasn't

no identification on the dog
Posted by Bucktail1
Member since Feb 2015
3486 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:40 pm to
Look, let's just stop arguing about semantics and start doing what we do best....harass the funk out of someone on social media until they cave in to our demands.
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:44 pm to
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Look, let's just stop arguing about semantics and start doing what we do best....harass the funk out of someone on social media until they cave in to our demands.


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

yeah I'm really bored so I've been trying to research shelter laws and it varies by state, but after a set amount of days, the shelter has the right to pretty much do whatever they want with the animal

the 7 day period is there for the owner the claim the dog, but they have to provide some type of documentation to prove they own the dog



This is what court orders are for. Find a willing judge to get a hearing contesting ownership of property. Most people don't want to hire a lawyer to go through all of that, especially when it's easier just to let it go.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:49 pm to
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*Family contacts the rescuer, she refuses to give the dog back
Sorry as I haven't followed all of the posts, but why is this such an issue?

Call the cops, seems pretty simple to get your dog back unless it's just a stray you have no paperwork for?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:49 pm to
She would return home to a burnt pile of ruble...
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