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re: Bring Scout home UPDATE PAGE 8

Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:53 pm to
For comparison, Louisiana has a law saying any property held by any governmental agency has to give it back within a year of initial possession.

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§ 154. Presumptions of abandonment
A. Property is presumed abandoned if it is unclaimed by the apparent owner during the time set forth below for the particular property for the following:


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Property held by a court, state or other government, governmental subdivision or agency, public corporation, or other public authority, one year after the property becomes distributable, except as provided in R.S. 15:86.1.


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Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:53 pm to
There is a lot of stupid crap in this thread especially by Salmon, I don't know if you're trolling or just a moron with no heart.

Anyway, point is, someone else has their dog. Get it back.
Force, social media, law enforcement, who cares.

I'd get all dog papers, old pictures with the dog as early as possible, speak to an attorney. Have the lawyer send them a letter on his attorney letterhead and see if they cave.

If they don't I would look to social media and start a HUGE campaign against them like the one that seems to be in process. I'm talking protest outside on the street in front of their house.

None of that works? Go to extreme measures to get him back. My Forensic Files binges I'm sure would help me in this.

This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:54 pm to
so what would happen if the shelter killed the dog?
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:54 pm to
They rescued the dog two to three years ago and have a hundred pictures of the dog living with them, playing with their children, and napping in their home.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:55 pm to
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There is a lot of stupid crap in this thread especially by Salmon, I don't know if you're trolling or just a moron with no heart.


please explain what stupid crap I stated

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If they don't I would look to social media and start a HUGE campaign against them like the one that seems to be in process. I'm talking protest outside on the street in front of their house.


and if a person cares this much about their dog, it would seem to me they would take the very simple step to have at least the most basic form of identification on the dog

This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:57 pm to
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Dad is a cop and Mom is a Nurse. Good, Christian family.
I was on board until you threw out the redneck, red-meat pandering; cost you a signature.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 2:59 pm to
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They rescued the dog two to three years ago and have a hundred pictures of the dog living with them, playing with their children, and napping in their home.
And I assume papers for the dog?

If so, call the cops, and I don't see why you wouldn't have your dog back really soon.

My guess is they don't have papers, in which case, that's on them for not protecting themselves from shitty people like the one who won't give the dog back.
Posted by Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:02 pm to
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And I assume papers for the dog?


You cannot assume that when the FB page and multiple posts on here have clearly stated that they do not. It has also been stated multiple times that he is not chipped.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:02 pm to
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StickyFingaz
You probably shouldn't comment since you are unfit to own a dog and therefore incapable of understanding the situation.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

so what would happen if the shelter killed the dog?


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Interest and penalties
A. A holder who fails to report, pay, or deliver property within the time prescribed by this Chapter shall pay to the administrator interest at the annual rate established pursuant to R.S. 13:4202 on the property or value thereof from the date the property should have been reported,
paid, or delivered.
B. Except as otherwise provided in Subsection C of this Section, a holder who fails to report, pay, or deliver property within the time prescribed by this Chapter, or fails to perform other duties imposed by this Chapter, shall pay to the administrator, in addition to interest as provided in Subsection A of this Section, a civil penalty of two hundred dollars for each day the report, payment, or delivery is withheld, or the duty is not performed, up to a maximum of five thousand
dollars.


Same link as above. In short they could be held liable for not following the law (shocker).
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:03 pm to
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And I assume papers for the dog?

LINK
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:06 pm to
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It has also been stated multiple times that he is not chipped.


which means they bare some responsiblity for this situation

I grew up in rural LA and all of our dogs roamed free as well, but we always had collars on them with proper identification and when we left for long periods we put them in a pen (this was before the days of chips)

its a shitty situation but it could have been prevented with some very basic pet ownership responsibilities
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:07 pm to
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Same link as above. In short they could be held liable for not following the law (shocker).



I just don't think these same laws apply for animal shelters
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:08 pm to
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just don't think these same laws apply for animal shelters


Are dogs considered property?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:12 pm to
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Are dogs considered property?


Yes.

But in this case, the dog would have been deemed abandoned since it had no identification and no one claimed it within the 7 day period.

If the owner does not claim the animal within those 7 days, it is considered forfeiture of the animal.

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In general, courts will uphold the decision of a humane society to adopt out an animal, as long the humane society has complied with any necessary statutory requirements, such as the minimum holding period. [37] This policy protects the shelter against lawsuits from owners who do not make reasonable efforts to find their animals.


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This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47667 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:14 pm to
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which means they bare some responsiblity for this situation


We have passed the point of pulling out the blamethrower. We just want to see the people get their dog back, balls intact.
Posted by CootKilla
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Member since Jul 2007
6231 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:15 pm to
This really pisses me off. I would hunt this bitch down and make her suffer.
Posted by toddzilla
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:15 pm to
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I was on board until you threw out the redneck, red-meat pandering; cost you a signature.


You can have the sig for some apple butter toast...
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:16 pm to
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We have passed the point of pulling out the blamethrower. We just want to see the people get their dog back, balls intact.


well the woman is not giving the dog back due to the negligence that I listed

so it is relevant
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 3:17 pm to
Dog will probably be better off in a home without a cop anyway.
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