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re: Boston DA lists crimes she won’t prosecute

Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75903 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:36 am to
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That's not what this thread is about. It's about calling liberals stupid!


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liberals stupid!


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:37 am to
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is it really her place to decide?


Prsoecutorial discretion is a real thing.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59343 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:55 am to
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Drug possession with intent to distribute


Someone with distribution amounts of heroin or coke needs to go to jail
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:57 am to
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People are still going to get arrested for these crimes.


It's called catch and release locally and property crime doubled.

It doesn't work.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8718 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:57 am to
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legalizing minor theft, shoplifting


Did you miss the portion where the article spoke about diversion, restitution, and community service?

I'm with a DA trying to find ways to let bad decision making "kids" not frick up their lives over minor offenses. Depending on the implementation, this could be a good thing.



I am with this DA using her discretion on a lot of this stuff, but those raising objections to the property crime exceptions have a real beef.

This approach is going to be embedded in the economic decision-making of everyone who lives, works, and (most importantly) invests in these areas. Strong property crime and private property rights enforcement is strongly correlated to communal health and economic growth, and that very much starts at the lowest level.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:00 am to
Suffolk County ,MA officially has the dumbest voting base in America. Proof of her win, assures that.

This be payback for those rasis laws.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47433 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:01 am to
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Violation of Private Nuisance Law

"To prove a case of private nuisance, a plaintiff must prove the following: 1) the defendant improperly created, permitted, or maintained a condition or activity that interfered with the plaintiff’s use and enjoyment of his or her property; 2) the interference was substantial and unreasonable; and 3) the defendant had some kind of interest in the property where the nuisance originated."


Whoops, fail.

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Harrassment

"You can ask for a Harassment Prevention Order (a "258E Order) from a judge if you’re suffering from harassment because someone has committed 3 or more acts:

That were willful and malicious. This means it was done on purpose and was done for cruelty, hostility or revenge STRIKE 1

Were aimed at you. STRIKE 2!

Were intended to cause you fear, intimidation, abuse, or damage to property. “Abuse” means causing or attempting to cause physical harm, or causing fear of imminent serious physical harm.STRIKE 3!!!!
Did in fact cause you fear, intimidation, abuse or damage to property"



You're OUT!

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Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress


Didn't your mommy teach you to never bring a civil pleading to a criminal cause?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59343 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:04 am to
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Maybe it happens, but I’ve never seen it in my life.


The argument over solely being charged with resisting arrest isn't anything new.


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Walker says his research indicates resisting arrest—rather than coming as a result of hostile perpetrators—often stems from a few officers in each department raring for a fight, who are unable or unwilling to defuse the hostility that naturally stems from when one is ordered to put his hands behind his back.

He suggests departments create “Early Intervention Systems,” which track officer performance, including how many arrests they make for resisting arrest—something that apparently the NYPD does in some form. (This is not to be confused with its Early Intervention Unit, which is instead for counseling cops feeling overwhelmed on the job). Officers found to be excessive in bringing resisting arrest charges could then be disciplined, retrained, or both.

“Resisting arrest charges have been misused. It’s better to put the emphasis on de-escalation, which has been endorsed by just about everyone these days, including the President’s Task force,” Walker said, referring to President Obama’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing, where Walker was a witness.

Officers will also charge someone with resisting arrest after they wield more force than may have been necessary, according to one expert on police violence.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:04 am to
If you honestly believe that, then more power to you. Come to Boston and test your theory.

And you asked what could be done, not what could be done in criminal court, so I added a civil option.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:05 am to
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Suffolk County ,MA officially has the dumbest voting base in America.


Sure, one of the most educated and wealthiest cities in the country has the dumbest voting base in the country.

Checks out.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86482 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:10 am to
Bravo. It’s even more than that. When property rights are abridged you see a sharp decline in public virtue. That is, average people begin to behave less virtuously with each other because the social contract is seen to no longer apply to their lives. They lose the assumption that they are supposed to be fair with their neighbors, or trust the Rule Of Law. We have seen this over and over in Communist countries and dictatorships, where the capricious and arbitary nature of The State leads to people becoming paranoid, distrustful and completely disconnected from their community.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:13 am to
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Sure, one of the most educated and wealthiest cities in the country has the dumbest voting base in the country.


They certainly lack the foresight to know what the results of this lack of prosecution will bring.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66985 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:13 am to
what did it say about robbing Fenway Park?

Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12199 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:14 am to
Someone who is "possession with intent to distribute", does he or she get to keep the drugs?

Will every store need to have security to stop the removal of goods which haven't been paid for?
(Is that $250 before or after sales tax?)

And a thousand other questions.

Shall we send our homeless to Boston for the summer?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178325 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:16 am to
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Sure, one of the most educated

All those BA Humanities degrees skew the numbers
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:18 am to
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Strong property crime and private property rights enforcement is strongly correlated to communal health and economic growth, and that very much starts at the lowest level.


Absolutely. It totally changed the character of our town in two years. Low level crooks moved in and the drug problem and property crime problem just exploded

It's had a huge effect on quality of life for many. The new Governor has promised to roll back many of the changes.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:18 am to
Thank god there’s all the STEM degrees from MIT and the MBAs from the HBS to help balance that out.

Not that those schools are world-renowned or anything.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:23 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98651 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:20 am to
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I’m honestly surprised that this isn’t more commonplace in black run prosecutors offices


Patience young cricket
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124871 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:22 am to
Is there any evidence that the Suffolk DA was trying to tack on jail time for these crimes prior to this? I have a hard time believing that folks were being locked up for the listed crimes prior to this. Seems like this is definitely more about declining prosecution than pre-trial diversion.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19882 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:22 am to
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Maybe it happens, but I’ve never seen it in my life


I have been with and actually seen a guy who was arrested in Destin, and his only charge was "resisting arrest". His crime? Watching me do a field sobriety test saying I needed a witness if they weren't going to record the test, when he wouldn't quit watching after being told twice, he was tackled face first onto the pavement and got the shite kicked out of him. When the judge looked at his face the next day and saw what he was charged with, he went apeshit
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