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re: Boss emailing at all hours of the night

Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:55 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69580 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:55 am to
I didn’t know the time when reading emails was predicated on the time when they were sent?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52649 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:56 am to
I don't pick up my work phone on the weekends. Screw that!
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83168 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:56 am to
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Im not sure about the rest of you but I take about 15-30 minutes every Sunday afternoon to catch up on weekend emails as well as plan out my work week.....makes Mondays much more manageable.



I do the same. I knock out emails on nights/weekends anytime I'm just lounging around and not busy because I like being able to leave the office when the sun is shining and I can relax on the patio or whatever before dinner.

I don't stop in the middle of an event/date/etc. to do work, but if I'm just dicking off on the sofa, answering an e-mail is not exactly a burden. And it allows for an easygoing weekday morning.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83168 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:58 am to
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I don't pick up my work phone on the weekends. Screw that!



I get this more than what OP is saying. He's saying he doesn't respond to it ever, even once the week starts, because it wasn't "sent while [he] was sitting in front of his PC"..
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I don't pick up my work phone on the weekends. Screw that!


Pretty sure his boss wasn't expecting him to do that either.

Apparently the OP thinks it's unreasonable for his boss to wonder why there was no response to an email after an entire business day passed. I'm going to side with his boss here.
Posted by Tiger2287
Member since Jan 2016
401 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:01 pm to
Wouldn't it be funny if his boss posted here and knows exactly who the OP is. Reminds me of the story's about people who write stupid stuff on social media and gets fired for it.

I don't expect people to respond to my e-mails on weekends, but by 12 PM, on Monday, I might start to wonder. On day 2 if the work week, why is it unreasonable to ask if you got my e-mail.

I havnt worked in a extremely long time, but that's just common since to me, and not only that but common and professional courtesy.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:03 pm to
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OP looks at his phone, it only shows an email from Person B. It doesn't show boss's email or Person A's email, unless he opens the email from person B, and read through the whole chain to see the others. To make matters worse, if he open the email from Person B, decides it doesn't pertain to him


I always look to see who they responded to, and if I don't know the original email and it was someone important I ALWAYS read the original email/ thread.

If you were CC'd there should be a reason for that.

Again, there's no reason to routinely miss emails. If you are you need to change your routine.

If something important is changed after hours that needs a response before the next workday begins, my routine is to email and require a response. If I don't receive a response then I'll call them.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10380 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:06 pm to
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So you received so many work related emails over the weekend that your boss's email got swept away? Did you respond to any of the other hundreds of work emails you were sent Saturday and Sunday?


It was actually something he needed right then or at at the earliest available opportunity post-12:30 AM. When I woke up, all I saw in my notifications was the daily spam quarantine which I receive a lot on weekends for some reason.

People aren't typically sending time sensitive emails on Saturdays, so I'd consider it an exception more than the rule.

Personally, I think it's really pathetic sending me work related correspondence after midnight, but if you really need me and for whatever reason I don't respond Just call my cell phone and talk.
Posted by TigerBait414
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
1502 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:08 pm to
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If I sent you a work email on a Saturday night I would definitely expect a response at some point on Sunday. If not then you and i would have a meeting first thing Monday morning to discuss your commitment to my company.




At which point I'd tell you to go frick yourself and I'd go work for someone else.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:09 pm to
Tell your boss that if he contacted you through your assistant maybe you’d answer him
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
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They are absolutely missed if you're not making a habit on Monday morning to double and triple check emails from Saturday and Sunday.


Why wouldn't you make this a habit? I, at least, check mine once on Saturday and Sunday and clear out the garbage, so I have less to deal with Monday morning. I receive and send business related emails on weekends quite often.

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I'm making the argument that you shouldn't send important correspondence after business hours and especially not when you're supposed to be sleeping because there is a pretty high likelihood that they'll get overlooked.


It's email for crying out loud. The beauty of that is you can check them at any time. I don't know why they would be overlooked simply because of the time sent. Either you look at your email or you don't. I check mine the same way every day, so I don't miss anything regardless of the time sent. And, I may suddenly remember something I need to send to an employee on a weekend or late at night, so I do it. I expect the employees to read them regardless of when I sent them. It's not that hard to check all of your emails from the last time you looked at them to the time you are currently looking at them.

You wouldn't last long as my employee with your arguments. You don't tell a boss when s/he can send you emails because it's not convenient to you to scroll through them to find any which were not sent during the work day hours.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60184 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
Maybe he's a werewolf
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:11 pm to
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The time of day that emails come in doesn’t matter at all. Just check your email, they aren’t going anywhere.

If you’re paid a salary and have a company phone the expectation is that you reasonably respond. Don’t respond at 12:30, but do by 10am at least.


I bill out every hour I work. If I get emails at 12:30 am on the weekend, you better believe I am getting paid for it. If they dont want me to bill for it I wont respond until the office opens again.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:12 pm to
Tell him to go frick a crack hooker like normal bosses.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:13 pm to
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You wouldn't last long as my employee with your arguments. You don't tell a boss when s/he can send you emails because it's not convenient to you to scroll through them to find any which were not sent during the work day hours.


Your project budgets must be huge for your employees to be on the clock so often. I take it youre not in the consulting world.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4240 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:13 pm to
If he needed something urgently then he should call. I don't know what line of work you're in but it's not reasonable to expect timely responses over the weekend in most businesses.

The separate issue is missing e-mails and not responding at all. Given that e-mail is a primary tool for communication, you have to be able to reliably expect that everyone can manage their inbox well enough to not miss things. That's just simple blocking and tackling type stuff.
Posted by Grilled Bald Eagle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1071 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:15 pm to
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If I sent you a work email on a Saturday night I would definitely expect a response at some point on Sunday. If not then you and i would have a meeting first thing Monday morning to discuss your commitment to my company.


I'm assuming that you've made it clear to said employee that as a condition of employment they are expected to be actively monitoring emails and responding on the weekends. If you haven't, Monday by 10am should be the expectation.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4613 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:15 pm to
For non-emergency situations, I think everything you just said is completely out of line. You force your employees to engage in work on the weekends because you can't be efficient enough to get it all done during the week? If you want to work on the weekend on mundane matters then so be it, but the weekend for many people is for other things. You conduct business during business hours. There's nothing worse then a tone-deaf manager forcing direct-reports to work on his/her schedule. If something must be handled on the weekend then text or call, there's nothing wrong with that. Otherwise, you review previous week business and plan the upcoming week on Monday.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76132 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:24 pm to
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If something important is changed after hours that needs a response before the next workday begins, my routine is to email and require a response. If I don't receive a response then I'll call them.


Even this is lazy, and to be used as a last resort (don't have phone # etc). If it is a business emergency, afterhours, then a phone call and direct text messages are required. Sending an email afterhours and expecting instant action should be cause for termination due to incompetence.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23112 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:25 pm to
I'm a boss that sends weekend emails. Guilty. Saturday morning at 5:30 is not uncommon for me.
However, I do emails when it is convenient for me, not my employees. I've learned to add a comment on my weekend emails that says please do not respond until the first half of the week. They should not feel pressured to respond on the weekend unless it is absolutely necessary.
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