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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10913 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:05 pm to
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READ the sourcing in the original posts you responded to
He’s referencing a Rasmussen poll

Here’s another one with a link to their website: IAPoll

Did you read the link to the actual Rasmussen poll included your tweet posted? It has different disapproval, specifically wording for the 39%, and uses a different month and numbers in its comparison. That’s why I wanted the actual poll not a leftist’s interpretation of it or outright lie about it with zero links to the poll. I don’t want a source from a leftist with TDS telling me what a poll said. I want the poll. Anything from usa_polling with direct info is likely biased and a lie (or at least a false narrative about the data).

From the Rasmussen link given that I also found which was the most recent large polling that they did on immigration:
It’s from Jan 20th not the 23rd like usa_polling stated, and it also states disapproval at 49% not 59% like usa_polling stated. Also look at the specific wording on approval.

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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters rate Trump as doing a good or excellent job of handling issues related to immigration – down from 45% last July – while 49% now give him a poor rating on the issue.


On the 18th Rasmussen posted the below poll
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Do you approve or disapprove of the Trump administration's program to find and deport immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally?

APPROVE -
All Voters: 62%
Men: 65%
Women: 59%
18-39: 57%
40-54: 66%
65+: 59%
White: 60%
Black: 59%
Hispanic: 63%
Other: 74%
DEM: 42%
IND: 64%
GOP: 80%



On Jan 23rd they actually teeeted a daily poll showing Trump’s total approval went up and how his numbers are better than Biden’s Autopen back in Jan 2022.
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This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 6:20 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40375 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:10 pm to
You see how that tweet says “flashback”?

It’s an old poll

From February of 25

Ask yourself why they would be reposting that now.

Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6708 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:10 pm to
CNN stated today ICE approval rating went up another 3 pts since the 2 shootings. America voted to get rid of illegals.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33941 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:10 pm to
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This dude has to be like 17/18, right?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10913 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:12 pm to
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There's a reason why most of these groups are either affiliated with communist/socialist organizations, or are outright members of those groups. Just read the signs. It's not like they're hiding it.


Yes. It’s an actual communist who moved to China with his code pink co-founder and new wife after selling his company for almost $800 million back in 2017 - Neville Roy Singham. Soros Jr helps out as well, but Singham is behind the ones not even hiding their communist ties and beliefs.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10913 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:17 pm to
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You see how that tweet says “flashback”?


Way to go off on a tangent to avoid addressing the question about did you read the actual poll at your own post’s link and see how numbers are different than what the leftist tweets said were the results of the poll (the leftist tweets posted by you and bonkers).

The other polls were me showing I looked for current postings or polls on immigration to show there are no other rassmussen polls that can possibly match the numbers in those leftist tweets.

Including this one
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:24 pm to
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We probably should just disband ICE and open the borders.



What a nonsensical, histrionic straw man
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:25 pm to
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America voted to get rid of illegals.
agree with this.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:26 pm to
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What a nonsensical, histrionic straw man


Just trying to fit in with the rest of you.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:26 pm to
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Just trying to fit in with the rest of you.

Naw
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:27 pm to
Ya.

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23461 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:41 pm to
I'm sure this'll be called fake news, leftist disinformation, etc., but Melugin has interviewed Trump multiple times and loves to hammer Dems for illegal immigration. I have no reason to believe he'd lie about this

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NEW: Since yesterday's deadly shooting in MN, I've talked to more than half a dozen federal sources involved immigration enforcement, including several in senior positions, who all tell me they have grown increasingly uneasy & frustrated w/ some of the claims & narratives DHS pushed in the aftermath of the shooting.

Specifically, I'm told there is extreme frustration with DHS officials going on TV and putting out statements claiming that Alex Pretti was intending to conduct a "massacre" of federal agents or wanted to carry out "maximum damage", even after numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate. While they say it was a terrible decision to show up with a gun and inject himself into a federal law enforcement operation, there is no indication Pretti was there to murder law enforcement, as videos appear to show he never drew his holstered firearm.

These sources say this messaging from DHS officials has been catastrophic from a PR and morale perspective, as it is eroding trust and credibility - comparing it to when Democrats falsely claimed the border was closed or that Haitians were being whipped at the border.

Some of these sources have described DHS’ response to the shooting as “a case study on how not to do crisis PR”, one said they are so “fed up” that they wish they could retire, another said “DHS is making the situation worse”, and another added that “DHS is wrong” and “we are losing this war, we are losing the base and the narrative."

These sources all believe this is going to end up being what they call a “bad shoot”, a “shitty” situation that happened in seconds where agents likely heard “gun!”, then the disarmed firearm may have had an accidental discharge that spooked the agents, and they shot. The agents do not have the luxury of multiple slow motion angles - and had to make split second decisions.

All of the sources support the mass deportation agenda, but have serious hesitations about the way it is being carried out and the messaging that comes with it. Many of the sources have expressed frustration that ICE is routinely blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, a completely separate agency.

I reached out to DHS for comment on concerns that their rhetoric and comments have damaged their credibility.

DHS provided the following statement to @FoxNews:

“We have seen a highly coordinated campaign of violence against our law enforcement. This individual committed a federal crime while armed as he obstructed an active law enforcement operation. As with any situation that is evolving, we work to give swift, accurate information to the American people as more information becomes available."
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12713 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:02 pm to
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They’re all pathetic and incapable of original thought.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:03 pm to
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I'm sure this'll be called fake new

It won’t be fake news when the Rs get absolutely wrecked in the midterms.

It’s not going to be pretty at all.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10913 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:09 pm to
Is there something in there stating the shooting was completely unjustified or murder that I am not seeing?

Claiming he didn’t show up there specifically to murder doesn’t mean he didn’t break any laws in regards to federal officers enforcing federal immigration laws including before videos while blocking legal traffic, resist arrest, do these while having a gun without an ID per local law requirement (possibly ignored by the local police), and justifiably put some officers in fear of their lives.

It also doesn’t mean he was not part of a domestic terrorist group being funded by a communist American living in China.

Even claiming a possible bad shooting doesn’t come close to what the left and Dems are claiming. Investigation will take place, but enforcing immigration laws must continue as well as dealing with the corruption and insurrection within the state and local govt in Minnesota.

The left should learn to legally protest instead of harassing, doxxing, forcibly assaulting, resisting, oppressing, impeding, intimidating, or interfering with federal officers while they are engaged in or on account of the performance of their official duties (or do any of these towards their family members). They should avoid terrorizing churches, and they also need to stop harassing, intimidating, or asking for IDs from people they make false assumptions about including just for having Texas plates, having an American flag, being engineers eating lunch, or just look like ICE according to them.

Speaking of the fraud with federal money I saw that this shooting and subsequent no go zones are near some of the fraudulent Somalia businesses involved in the fraud and also fairly close to the “Learing” center. Gov, AG, Omar, and the mayor must have gotten nervous.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9185 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:15 pm to
The National Guard is arriving in Minnesota to restore order. You get in the way, you history! Take out the trash
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:16 pm to
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Totally plausible for a guy on his all fours to remove a weapon and fire it without the guy standing over him realizing it



That's you completely missing the point. The weapon is known for uncommanded discharges, if you weren't such a miserably lazy and ignorant piece of trash you could figure out what that means without adult supervision but guess that's too much to expect from you.


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Also no communication or responsibility of the arresting squad to make the presence and location of a weapon that they themselves seized known


Given the timing of events you must imagine yourself nearly prescient with how you think you'd behave in such a situation.

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Goddam what a pathetic little worm one must be to excuse this



You truly are pathetic. Willfully ignorant, uneducated, moronic, and probably a huge disappointment to the miserable cretins that raised you too.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:17 pm to
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I think the death causes bias in the whole situation.

and deservedly so....

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I truly think if he was maced and arrested, this wouldn’t even be a topic or story at all.

no shite... b/c arresting is expected out of LEOs... not murdering
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10637 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:20 pm to
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The National Guard is arriving in Minnesota to restore order. You get in the way, you history! Take out the trash


They're handing out coffee and donuts to the mob.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:23 pm to
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I bet you're the type of trash that thinks men are never victims of domestic violence too.

i'm the one who wouldn't hit a woman, and i'm the "trash"... bro, get over yourself... you are a baby back bitch if you think hitting a woman is ok...

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Same as if they had a weapon, I'm drawing and shooting same as I would anyone else.

i'd be willing to be you are a lot closer to Sloppy Joe than G.I Joe, like you seem to think you are...

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The people who were simply present, did not destroy or deface property, did not confront law enforcement. People who were also charged for simply being there or in the vicinity. You might really want to think about the nuances here, your "gotchas" fall appart pretty quickly otherwise.

but you know full well that's not what we are talking about, so stop with the false equivalency.... your non-answer is very telling...

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First the women attempted to confront the agent that then shoved her back. He had every right to do that as she was attempting to interfere.

the woman had stopped when the agent started towards her... there was ZERO reason, at that point for him to take a three step lunging push at her...

but it's cool... you win "internet tough guy of the day"...
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