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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:25 pm to Clames
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:25 pm to Clames
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huge disappointment to the miserable cretins that raised you
you know, it's real easy to talk tough sitting on the other side that computer in the comfort of your own home...
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:25 pm to dallastigers
No tangent. Seems relevant to tell you that you posted a year old poll
And there’s no need to avoid addressing it.
I can see how the wording is confusing, but if 39% approve that’s another way of saying 39% think he’s doing good or excellent.
49% say he’s doing poorly
The crosstabs are behind a paywall but it’s easy to see how they got these numbers when factoring in a fourth “below average” option. Feel free to sign up for the Rasmussen platinum and we will hash it out, but I ain’t giving those jokers a dime
And it’s not “leftists” - there are plenty of polling sites reporting it. They’ve tagged Rasmussen, so if it’s a blatant lie I imagine we’ll know it soon. Haven’t heard a peep yet.
And there’s no need to avoid addressing it.
I can see how the wording is confusing, but if 39% approve that’s another way of saying 39% think he’s doing good or excellent.
49% say he’s doing poorly
The crosstabs are behind a paywall but it’s easy to see how they got these numbers when factoring in a fourth “below average” option. Feel free to sign up for the Rasmussen platinum and we will hash it out, but I ain’t giving those jokers a dime
And it’s not “leftists” - there are plenty of polling sites reporting it. They’ve tagged Rasmussen, so if it’s a blatant lie I imagine we’ll know it soon. Haven’t heard a peep yet.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:31 pm to Clames
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That's you completely missing the point. The weapon is known for uncommanded discharges
Wait a second pal
You said this
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that Pretti didn't discharge the weapon himself
So in this little fantasy you’ve cooked up, was it uncommanded? Or did he discharge it himself?
You are stumbling on the weight of your own mental gymnastics
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the timing of events you must imagine yourself nearly prescient with how you think you'd behave in such a situation.
I’m not a federal agent, but it would take a lot more than a fictional drawing of a weapon to shoot a man on his knees in the back of the head
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You truly are pathetic. Willfully ignorant, uneducated, moronic, and probably a huge disappointment to the miserable cretins that raised you too.
What an emotional outburst. I can’t believe I thought you were composed and intelligent before this incident.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:32 pm to chRxis
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it's real easy to talk tough sitting on the other side that computer in the comfort of your own home..
Right
That was an embarrassing display
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:34 pm to The Pirate King
Over to instagram to get expert 2nd amendment and use of force analysis from liberal white women
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:35 pm to TT9
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agree with this.
I appreciate it
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:42 pm to The Pirate King
Once again the officer panicked and shot a guy for no real reason.
I’m usually on the side of LE but both the recent shootings were unnessary, IMHO.
I’m usually on the side of LE but both the recent shootings were unnessary, IMHO.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:44 pm to BIG Texan
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I’m usually on the side of LE but both the recent shootings were unnessary, IMHO.
finally, someone with the balls to go against the grain and call this a frick up, without having to resort to victim blaming, mental gymnastics, childish insults, conspiracy theory, long winded rambling rants, etc...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:49 pm to Ingeniero
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. Many of the sources have expressed frustration that ICE is routinely blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, a completely separate agency.
This is going to be the interesting thing moving forward. It seems BP is the one who keeps fricking up and getting the bad PR
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:51 pm to dallastigers
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Is there something in there stating the shooting was completely unjustified or murder that I am not seeing?
The court of public opinion, and the impact of that on our democracy, won't require a conviction.
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Claiming he didn’t show up there specifically to murder doesn’t mean he didn’t break any laws in regards to federal officers enforcing federal immigration laws including before videos while blocking legal traffic, resist arrest, do these while having a gun without an ID per local law requirement (possibly ignored by the local police), and justifiably put some officers in fear of their lives.
It also doesn’t mean he was not part of a domestic terrorist group being funded by a communist American living in China.
You're going to find that only the most hardcore people in the echo chamber value these talking points.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:52 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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So in this little fantasy you’ve cooked up, was it uncommanded? Or did he discharge it himself?
You must have severe reading comprehension problems, only explanation to how stupid you must be here. Go back and read everything again, do not mouth the words and maybe get an adult to help you out.
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I’m not a federal agent, but it would take a lot more than a fictional drawing of a weapon to shoot a man on his knees in the back of the head
You're too stupid to be a Federal agent, let's just get that out of the way first. Second, if you weren't so poor at reading, you would see that the issue it that the WEAPON went off as it was being removed because that is a known issue with that line of Sig pistols. That is what I stated as a hypothetical in at least two other posts too.
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I can’t believe I thought you were composed and intelligent before this incident.
Still the brainless, intellectually stunted turd that can't get anything in this thread right.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:54 pm to BIG Texan
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for no real reason.
Maybe it's all the threats they've gotten, violent protestors, and coordinated stalkers and obstructors. And the fact that the guy was carrying a gun to a "peaceful" protest.
Cant imagine why they're on edge.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:55 pm to Clames
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the issue it that the WEAPON went off as it was being removed because that is a known issue with that line of Sig pistols. That is what I stated as a hypothetical in at least two other posts too.
except that's not what the video shows, at all... the weapon is clearly retrieved, and shuttled away, before shots are heard... so there goes that theory... but wait, you said you watched the video multiple times... how'd you miss that?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:55 pm to chRxis
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you know, it's real easy to talk tough sitting on the other side that computer in the comfort of your own home...
You and the other miscreants certainly try. Let's be honest, you wouldn't do anything if this was all IRL too...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:56 pm to dallastigers
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Claiming he didn’t show up there specifically to murder doesn’t mean he didn’t break any laws in regards to federal officers enforcing federal immigration laws including before videos while blocking legal traffic, resist arrest, do these while having a gun without an ID per local law requirement (possibly ignored by the local police), and justifiably put some officers in fear of their lives. It also doesn’t mean he was not part of a domestic terrorist group being funded by a communist American living in China. Even claiming a possible bad shooting doesn’t come close to what the left and Dems are claiming. Investigation will take place, but enforcing immigration laws must continue as well as dealing with the corruption and insurrection within the state and local govt in Minnesota.
Ultimately, I think his poor choices entering the pressure cooker led to terrible outcomes.
I’d advise friends not to go solo, and carry etc…
I do think the agents came in hot. Which given their lives, I’d be shocked if it never happens. We are asking too much of most and not sufficiently holding those accountable that are truly interfering.
Im not sure the first shots origin and I think that’ll go a long way for shitty situation vs bad shoot
I think the race to paint him as a terrorist was an unforced error from leadership that are supposed to take a deep breathe and represent everyone including the guy on the ground.
I think the race to paint all immigration enforcement as nazism is also terrible
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:57 pm to BIG Texan
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I’m usually on the side of LE but both the recent shootings were unnessary, IMHO.
I agree. Plus in the first killing the dude shot once through the windshield then twice as the car passed through the open window which was probably the kill shot which was completely unnecessary because the danger had passed by him. He wanted to finish the woman off.
The second killing the victim was filming away from the dudes and went to help a woman who was thrown to the ground. They were pepper sprayed and he was snatched up and thrown to the ground, beaten in the head with a pepper spray can, disarmed of his legally carried weapon and shot 10 times for good measure. Why did they feel the need to empty their weapons on an unarmed defenseless dead man?
Those dudes have no business carrying lethal weapons of any kind and they’ve proven that.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:58 pm to The Pirate King
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And the fact that the guy was carrying a gun to a "peaceful" protest.
1, not illegal, 2, even Bonvino said that's fine and claimed he's done it multiple time himself...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:00 pm to chRxis
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except that's not what the video shows, at all... the weapon is clearly retrieved, and shuttled away, before shots are heard... so there goes that theory... but wait, you said you watched the video multiple times... how'd you miss that?
Weapon was retrieved, some says "gun", there's a shot followed by several more. No video shows exactly where the first shot occurs.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:01 pm to Clames
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You and the other miscreants certainly try
no, i try to keep the discussion on topic, vs. hurling insults at everyone, like a child... i can't speak for others here, but i keep serious discussions on topic to the best of my ability and try to be respectful of opposing view points, no matter how stupid or misguided i find them to be... i know i hadn't insulted or demeaned you, so i do expect that same treatment, when discussing a topic
quote:you don't know me from Adam, so don't pretend you do
Let's be honest, you wouldn't do anything if this was all IRL too...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:03 pm to Clames
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No video shows exactly where the first shot occurs.
they absolutely do... there is even a slowed down version making the rounds that CLEARLY shows the guy disarmed, firearm in the possession of the agent, and then the shots begin... there is NO POSSIBLE way is was an accidental discharge of Pretti's firearm...
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