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Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:00 am to UnitedFruitCompany
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This is what happens when you let a company founded and run by engineers get taken over by accountants and consultants.
This is the end result. EVERY. frickING. TIME.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:13 am to CAD703X
If SpaceX is going to have to bail them out, they should absolutely humiliate them before, during, and after the entire operation. And I mean hilariously and ruthlessly mean. Make them even more of a laughingstock then they already are... if that's even possible.
Elon has built the world's literal greatest technological breakthrough in generations, and has apparently made it look easy. But it turns out going to space is still fricking hard. Boeing is having to hire the second best rocket engineers, the second best scientists, the second best everything. They're also enormously bloated with bureaucratic bullshite.
Legacy American companies like Boeing don't have the drive, the ethic, or the people to build a successful space division and they never will. Meanwhile, NASA is a real-time joke, embarrassingly proving that the American government funded and owned "tech" have left innovation behind and have swelled with unions, pensions, and fat fat fat.
NASA's only relevance is when they beg Elon to put a nostalgic, old logo on a SpaceX rocket and it all ends right there.
Elon has built the world's literal greatest technological breakthrough in generations, and has apparently made it look easy. But it turns out going to space is still fricking hard. Boeing is having to hire the second best rocket engineers, the second best scientists, the second best everything. They're also enormously bloated with bureaucratic bullshite.
Legacy American companies like Boeing don't have the drive, the ethic, or the people to build a successful space division and they never will. Meanwhile, NASA is a real-time joke, embarrassingly proving that the American government funded and owned "tech" have left innovation behind and have swelled with unions, pensions, and fat fat fat.
NASA's only relevance is when they beg Elon to put a nostalgic, old logo on a SpaceX rocket and it all ends right there.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:51 am to CAD703X
NASA should drag Boeing’s CEO, CFO and COO up there and make them fly it home.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:01 am to FOBW
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NASA should drag Boeing’s CEO, CFO and COO up there and make them fly it home.
This idea should get some traction. Make Bill Nelson and Calhoun ride it back.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:05 am to Bama and Beer
quote:this is the part I don't understand. what bad could they talk about when it comes to spacex?
“We hate SpaceX,” he added. “We talk s–t about them all the time, and now they’re bailing us out.”
This post was edited on 8/26/24 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/26/24 at 1:14 pm to CAD703X
The NASA vs Boeing blame game has hit home in NOLA where NASA accused Boeing of doing bad things at the Michoud facility.
See the WWL story
LINK
The Advocate/Picayune has a more detailed story behind a paywall.
Criticism leveled by NASA include the incompetence of technical staff trained by Nunez Community College.
Gov. Landry's econ development people were blindsided by the highly negative review. Obviously, they don't have the contacts in DC to know what's coming.
See the WWL story
LINK
The Advocate/Picayune has a more detailed story behind a paywall.
Criticism leveled by NASA include the incompetence of technical staff trained by Nunez Community College.
Gov. Landry's econ development people were blindsided by the highly negative review. Obviously, they don't have the contacts in DC to know what's coming.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 1:54 pm to Tree_Fall
It’s too early now but at some point you gotta think that Boeing is going to be a great buy again.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 1:54 pm to Tree_Fall
Don’t doubt for a minute that there are some deficiencies on workforce side.
However, the competent guy I know said Boeing’s Michoud management sucked, so he left for a better opportunity.
However, the competent guy I know said Boeing’s Michoud management sucked, so he left for a better opportunity.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 2:07 pm to CAD703X
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damn NASA, why you gotta let a little thing like that stop you from using the starliner?
If I was stranded up there they wouldn't have had the option when I told them to cue up the top brass for Boeing and NASA so I could tell them to go frick themselves for even thinking I'd jump back in that piece of shite and try to make it back to flat Earth.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 2:39 pm to The Egg
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this is the part I don't understand. what bad could they talk about when it comes to spacex?
It’s the equivalent of the trust fund baby complaining about the crypto or tech millionaire moving in down the street.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 3:19 pm to Bama and Beer
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“We hate SpaceX,” he added. “We talk s–t about them all the time, and now they’re bailing us out.”
In what universe did they feel they had the high ground to “talk s—t about space-X? Space-x has absolutely humiliated Boeing and Nasa at every turn
Posted on 8/26/24 at 3:39 pm to CAD703X
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“They have their own PR issues and don’t need two dead astronauts,” he added
Posted on 8/26/24 at 3:40 pm to Tree_Fall
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The NASA vs Boeing blame game has hit home in NOLA where NASA accused Boeing of doing bad things at the Michoud facility.
Considering how many issues Boeing is having w/their planes right now I seriously doubt the problems w/the Starliner started on NASA's end.
I will say that somebody needs a giant kick in the arse for not thinking to ensure SpaceX and Boeing made compatible space suits. What the actual frick were they thinking to not work together something so damn basic?
This post was edited on 8/26/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/26/24 at 3:51 pm to SelaTiger
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I hope they get home safe. Of course it’s humiliating that Elon may have to rescue them. They should be thankful. I hope it all goes well.
they is the Boeing employees not the astronauts who I think would just like to not die in orbit
Posted on 8/26/24 at 4:29 pm to Dr RC
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I will say that somebody needs a giant kick in the arse for not thinking to ensure SpaceX and Boeing made compatible space suits. What the actual frick were they thinking to not work together something so damn basic?
Boeing and SpaceX are two different companies with different mission goals. True, they both took NASA money to develop re-usable vehicles to support the ISS, but other than a common docking port, the vehicles are very different.
SpaceX uses it's Falcon 9 program to make a profit launching payload for private and public missions. The Starlink constellation is also used for profit. These profits pay for the research and development of his Starship vehicles that they hope to make humans multi-planetary in the near future. SpaceX can't iterate at the speed of Boeing and government funding with all of the politics that come with it.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 4:32 pm to CleverUserName
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In what universe did they feel they had the high ground to “talk s—t about space-X? Space-x has absolutely humiliated Boeing and Nasa at every turn
Well, the Boeing contract folks negotiated a higher price for an inferior product so Boeing negotiators >>> SpaceX.
The Boeing engineer can play video games all day and still get paid for junk while the poor ol' SpaceX-er has to produce.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 4:38 pm to AlwysATgr
Halfway wanting Elon to tell nasa to dance with who brought them.
Posted on 8/26/24 at 4:40 pm to CAD703X
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NASA didn’t want to chance it
Boeing
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