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Boeing Knew About Safety-Alert Problem for a Year Before Telling FAA, Airlines

Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:24 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:24 am
Someone should go to jail over this


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Boeing Co. didn’t share information about a problem with a cockpit safety alert for about a year before the issue drew attention with the October crash of a 737 MAX jet in Indonesia, and then gave some airlines and pilots partial and inconsistent explanations according to industry and government officials.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:25 am to
If you hadn’t dumped that stock, better hurry up and do it now
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:25 am to
They screwed up the MAX so badly.

They need to fix this ASAP or risk their reputation.
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:26 am to
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They need to fix this ASAP or risk their reputation.


Um, too late
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30070 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:28 am to
Hello Airbus I need to order 200 planes ASAP
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:31 am to
Boeing is also apparently eliminating hundreds of inspector jobs as well.

Because now is definitely the right time to eliminate inspectors from your QA team.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20642 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:32 am to
I doubt that he stock will slide much. Boeing is a cash cow and investors don’t really give a shite if people die when they more than doubled stock value in the last 5 years.

Hell, a month ago, right after a really negative hit piece came on Boeing, their stock was up huge and actually one of the biggest influencers on the market that day
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131654 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:35 am to
The lawsuits over this will be insane.

Now we know that they KNEW there was a problem and told no one.

Hello gross negligence and punitive damages.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:37 am to
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If you hadn’t dumped that stock, better hurry up and do it now
the market doesn't care much about this news
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 8:38 am
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:42 am to
It will if/when the FAA and/or foreign aviation regulators refuse to re-certify the MAX and start questioning the airworthiness of other new Boeing planes.

It *probably* won’t happen but I’d be jittery if I’m a stock holder.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:43 am to
Attorneys finna feast
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:48 am to
Isn’t the head of the FAA a former Boeing exec?

We love our crony capitalism, don’t we folks? Very swampy indeed.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:50 am to
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Someone should go to jail over this


I agree and someone probably will once internal memos and emails get leaked. They should be charged with 346 counts of murder.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:53 am to
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It will if/when the FAA and/or foreign aviation regulators refuse to re-certify the MAX and start questioning the airworthiness of other new Boeing planes.

It *probably* won’t happen but I’d be jittery if I’m a stock holder.
I added this stock to my watchlist the day the crash happened, hoping for a huge drop so I could buy in. But it never came. Yeah there was a mid 10s% drop, but considering what happened and it was the second one in a few months, I expected a much bigger drop.
shite there were a lot of companies last week drop much worse just because they missed quarterly estimates.

All that to say, I wouldn't expect anything to cause a massive market overreaction to BA at this point.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:57 am to
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Isn’t the head of the FAA a former Boeing exec?

We love our crony capitalism, don’t we folks? Very swampy indeed.


downvoters have no response to this
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
30307 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:58 am to
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If you hadn’t dumped that stock, better hurry up and do it now


Huh?....if Boeing drops in value it is a no brainer to buy.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:00 am to
Buy if you don’t own it. If you own it, you should have dumped it already imo. Of not hang on for the long play I presume.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:04 am to
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Isn’t the head of the FAA a former Boeing exec?


You tell me


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Daniel K. Elwell
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photo of Daniel K. ElwellDaniel K. Elwell is the Acting Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). In this capacity, he is responsible for the safety and efficiency of the largest aerospace system in the world — a system that operates more than 50,000 flights per day. He oversees a $16.4 billion-dollar budget, more than 47,000 employees, and is focused on ensuring the agency and its employees are the best prepared and trained professionals to meet the growing demands and requirements of the industry. Mr. Elwell also oversees the FAA's multibillion-dollar NextGen air traffic control modernization program as the U.S. shifts from ground-based radar to state-of-the-art satellite technology.

Prior to serving as Acting Administrator, Mr. Elwell was the Deputy Administrator of the FAA. President Trump announced the appointment of Mr. Elwell as the Deputy Administrator in June 2017 and he was sworn in to office on June 26, 2017.

Elwell previously served at the FAA as the Assistant Administrator for Policy, Planning, and Environment from 2006-2008. Most recently, he was Senior Advisor on Aviation to U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao. Earlier in his career, he served as a legislative fellow for the late Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska).

From 2013-2015, as Senior Vice President for Safety, Security, and Operations at Airlines for America (A4A), Elwell was responsible for leading the advancement of commercial aviation safety and security excellence for major U.S. air carriers.

Prior to A4A, Elwell was Vice President of the Aerospace Industries Association (AIA) from 2008-2013. In this role, Elwell represented civil aerospace manufacturers and led policy development and advocacy for the civil aerospace manufacturing interests of more than 300 AIA member companies.

Elwell was a commercial pilot for 16 years with American Airlines, flying DC-10, MD-80, and B-757/767 aircraft. While maintaining his proficiency as an MD-80 Captain, he served as Managing Director for International and Government Affairs at American Airlines.

Dan earned his pilot wings at Williams Air Force Base in Arizona after graduating from the U.S. Air Force Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree in International Affairs. Lieutenant Colonel Elwell retired from military service as a Command Pilot with more than 6,000 hours combined civilian and military flight time in the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Air Force Reserve, including combat service during Operation Desert Storm.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4416 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:17 pm to
I beleive you're thinking of the Sec. Of Defense.

Not that a lot of FAA officials aren't former Boeing employees, because they are.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4555 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:21 pm to
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investors don’t really give a shite if people die when they more than doubled stock value in the last 5 years


Watch how quickly they care when those profits are eaten up by defense costs and payouts.
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