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re: Blood tests show hundreds of Georgians charged with DUI were sober

Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:32 am to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16155 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:32 am to
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Dirty arse cops.

The blame needs to be directed at MADD. They are the ones that societally normalized lower BAC, not because of any difference in actual impairment, but the usual woman BS line of, "you can never be too safe!"

This is what turned police forces and mayors from, "put the most sober person in the driver's seat and I'll follow you home in the cruiser," to what we have now.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1813 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:36 am to
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More than 10% of the 6,875 blood samples GBI tested in 2025 came back “not detected” for all forms of prescription and illegal drugs.


So, the police were correct in identifying people impaired by prescription and illegal drugs about 90% of the time?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91550 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:52 am to
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The blame needs to be directed at MADD
Meh

What even is MADD? Probably just some NGO equivalent at this point.

frick cops
frick the left
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91550 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:53 am to
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So, the police were correct in identifying people impaired by prescription and illegal drugs about 90% of the time?
This isn’t a middle school algebra test.


If 10% of these people aren’t doing shite wrong and potentially having their lives ruined, police heads need to fricking roll. As well as whoever makes the rules.
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
1875 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:56 am to
I will cherish the day you are arrested whether legally or not so you stop frickin posting if only for 72hr hold.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20157 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:30 am to
This is NOT a story I heard. I was in the courtroom and witnessed it.

Trooper gets on the stand at a DWI trial. Begins testimony regarding the Field Sobriety Test. DA asks about the test and Trooper explains the "tilt your head back, extend your arms and touch your index finger to your nose" test.

Defense attorney gets up and asks "can you demonstrate the test please?" Trooper, still sitting in the witness chair, does the test and lands his index finger square on his eyelid. Everyone goes silent. Defense attorney looks at Judge and Judge asks the Trooper "are you drunk right now?" Trooper says "of course not."

ADA and Defense Attorney approach and confer with Judge. ADA steps back and announces that state is dropping all charges.

What pissed me off is that the demonstration clearly showed the test is bullshite but the Judge had the state dismiss rather than making a record of the test being bullshite. So the tests continue and people get convicted using what has been demonstrated as an unreliable test.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15663 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:34 pm to
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If 10% of these people aren’t doing shite wrong and potentially having their lives ruined, police heads need to fricking roll. As well as whoever makes the rules.

I wonder what percentage of that 90% were obviously impaired, and the blood test was a formality?

It’s completely false for someone to argue that the arresting officers guessed right 90% of the time. There wasn’t a judgement call on most of those cases.


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all forms of prescription and illegal drugs.

There’s a long list of commonly prescribed drugs that get flagged in those blood tests. Adderall, Ambien, Trazadone, Zoloft are just a few examples. Go randomly test 100 people on the streets and you will find a significant number legally prescribed at least one medication on that list. They also get lumped into that 90% positive category. It doesn’t mean they were impaired.

Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17013 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:39 pm to
Police are assholes. Despite what you boot lickers think dwi is nothing more than a money grab.

Imagine this in Louisiana. You get the charges dismissed but then you have to deal with the dmv which is a completely separate entity.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:49 pm to
I've never been pulled over for DUI. If I ever were, I would refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a blood draw. Stone cold sober, I would probably fail a field sobriety test. My balance isn't great, my vision sucks, I'm not reciting the alphabet backwards, I'm not touching my nose on command. All of that shite is designed for you to fail so they can arrest your arse. frick the police.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12214 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:51 pm to
This has been going on forever in places like Roswell, Woodstock, and Kennesaw.

There was one Roswell officer who had written something like 300 DUI's in 10 months and he was one of those supposed "drug recognition experts" He was even given an award for writing so many DUI's

Case after case thrown out because drivers weren't impaired. Some lost jobs and other things. Nothing ever happened to the officer he was allowed to keep writing DUI's based on his 'expertise'. Its all a laughable joke.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92280 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:51 pm to
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never been pulled over for DUI. If I ever were, I would refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a blood draw. Stone cold sober,


about half the guys in my frat at LSU arelawyres/judges, without exception this is their advice
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:59 pm to
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about half the guys in my frat at LSU arelawyres/judges, without exception this is their advice

It's good advice. I don't drink, I don't do drugs, there's no one way I'm impaired behind the wheel, I'm not going through their dog and pony show just so they can arrest me regardless. I reiterate, frick the police.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 1:00 pm to
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I will cherish the day you are arrested whether legally or not so you stop frickin posting if only for 72hr hold.


I was in jail earlier today. Could have been me.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92280 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 1:02 pm to
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I don't drink, I don't do drugs, there's no one way I'm impaired behind the wheel,


I've posted this before but you don't have to be impaired, at all, to be arrested for DUI, you will probably ultimately win the battle but the expense and insurance ramifications will be almost as great as if you were convicted
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 1:09 pm to
The biggest frick you is that your DL will be suspended if you refuse.

Never do a breath test simply for the fact that it cannot be re-tested. A false positive has no way to be proven false.

With blood, at least it can be re-tested.

FSTs are purely subjective, too.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92280 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 1:13 pm to
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The biggest frick you is that your DL will be suspended if you refuse.



yep, and I don't get how that stands up, the explanation is that "it's a contract you signed with the state when you got your drivers license," it's like you're being punished for not willingly assisting to incriminate yourself
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
1875 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 1:24 pm to
K
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 2:02 pm to
I always say it doesn't matter if you blow under the limit, they may still take you to jail.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20326 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:48 pm to
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Never do field sobriety tests, even if you're sober.

Also, don't drink and drive. Get an Uber, it's so convenient these days.


What if they then get a court ordered blood test and you fail for marijuana use from days prior? Does no one ever "pass" field sobriety tests?

I just don't ever want to be in a situation where that happens
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7129 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Nothing wrong with the prosecution arguing that.

People metabolize at different rates, it doesn’t hold up in court because its not an empirical form of measurement, such as, measurable levels of intoxicants. The State has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were above the legal limit at the time of the incident. Such is the burden of proof and the foundation of our entire criminal justice system.
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 5:22 pm
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