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re: Bill Nye on humans living on Mars and terraforming:"Are you guys high? It's not happening"
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:07 am to OweO
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:07 am to OweO
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It's not possible for life to exist on Mars. If it was possible, it would already exist.
Do we know this isn't the case 100%?
All we have to go about regarding life on mars is pictures of the surface from rovers.
I know the surface of mars is inhospitable to life, but we have 100's of species existing on Earth in the Mariana Trench almost 40,000 ft below sea level with no help from the Sun and 8 tons per square inch of water pressure.
There could very well be life on mars under the surface.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:09 am
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:09 am to TH03
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"It's not reasonable because it's so cold. And there is hardly any water.
There's absolutely no food, and the big thing, I just remind these guys, there's nothing to breathe."
right, that's why the whole terraforming thing is there
I think what he is saying is that Terraforming on a planet-wide scale simply isn't feasible, and since terraforming isn't feasible, neither is real colonization.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:11 am to musick
I stopped taking Bill Nye seriously when he tried to tell me there are more than 2 genders.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:14 am to PearlyBaker
quote:I didn't think it was one or the other?
I’ve been saying this, how the frick is making Mars liveable a better solution than keeping Earth liveable.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:14 am to xrockfordf150x
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Here on earth: “Humans are changing the climate.” On mars: “Its absurd, humans can’t change a climate.”
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:15 am to PearlyBaker
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I’ve been saying this, how the frick is making Mars liveable a better solution than keeping Earth liveable.
Because for Human Beings to survive long term, we have to learn how to do this shite to escape our own sun exploding.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:15 am to musick
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Bill Nye
The not really a scientist guy
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:15 am to Cosmo
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We are centuries away from the technology needed to terraform a planet.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:16 am to kingbob
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I think what he is saying is that Terraforming on a planet-wide scale simply isn't feasible, and since terraforming isn't feasible, neither is real colonization.
He is. And it's so short sighted for a so-called scientist.
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It's cold
It's cold in North Dakota in the winter. They've figured that out.
(Warm areas up, domes)
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Hardly any water
(until very recently we thought NO water on Mars. The fact there is water is HUGE. Water can be created and multiplied on the molecular level and renewable sources can be made easily) Not sure why he mentioned this one.
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There's absolutely no food
Bring food and start farms. Why do you think the first thing Musk's vision anbd SpaceX is doing is getting large payload shipments from Earth to Mars? Also they are growing food IN SPACE right now on space stations, you can start a lab, then farm.
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the big thing, I just remind these guys, there's nothing to breathe.
Domed areas of oxygen and in the long term, creating CO2 from plants to try to create and sustain it. This is the entire point of terraforming.
It's like he's dismissing everything, even though knowing it technically can be done. It's a hack piece and he is a hack.
Now will it happen in our lifetime or can it? Probably not. But a so-called scientist dismissing something outright that the best scientific minds and researchers have been studying for the reasons he listed is reckless and hacky.
I mean just look at this idiotic statement:
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There's absolutely no food, and the big thing, I just remind these guys, there's nothing to breathe." Plus living in a dome, then putting on a spacesuit to go outside will get tiring – fast. "When you leave your dome, you're gonna put on another dome, and I think that will get old pretty quick," he said. "Especially the smell in the spacesuit – all the Febreze you can pack, I think it will really help you up there."
So what is it Nye? Is it just inconvenient and not ideal or can it happen?
Oh so it can happen, it's just going to "get tiring" when you decide you want to leave the oxygen dome, one of the things you listed as a reason it can't work.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:23 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:18 am to PearlyBaker
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I’ve been saying this, how the frick is making Mars liveable a better solution than keeping Earth liveable.
So we can inadvertently change the Earth's climate with greenhouse gasses, but it's crazy to think we could intentionally do it to Mars.
That makes sense... since there's no political control to gain from terraforming Mars.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:19 am to musick
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. "People disagree with me on this, and the reason they disagree is because they're wrong," he quipped.
No, Bill Nye the Science Guy, they disagree because you're wrong.
This is not something that we are going to do next week, but rather a goal for future planetary exploration. Having the ability to grow food on another planet will enable us to stay there longer.
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:21 am to musick
Bill Nye is a fraud
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:21 am to musick
Terraforming Mars is definitely possible, is it likely? Well no, but it's possible and 100% worth trying.
Mars will be good for about a billion years after the earth's oceans boil over in about a billion years from now. That alone makes it worth trying
Mars will be good for about a billion years after the earth's oceans boil over in about a billion years from now. That alone makes it worth trying
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:25 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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Mars will be good for about a billion years after the earth's oceans boil over in about a billion years from now. That alone makes it worth trying
But according to Bill Nye the Science Guy, it's going to get old getting in our febreezed space suit to go outside the dome and it's not worth it
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:26 am to musick
Bill Nye is a poor mans Mr. Wizard
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:30 am to TH03
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He worked for Boeing.
just because he has a 4 year degree in engineering doesn't make him a expert in every damn thing related to science....like he enjoys pretending to be.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:52 am to musick
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:58 am to musick
He is right. Humans are wired to live on specific conditions of earth. A better strategy would be to stop destroying our environment and extracting her resources. Improve our mapping of space (we can barely see blurry dots of distance stars right now) with the goal of harvasting the resources of other planets. We need exact conditions to live, and reproducing those on other planets is a waste of time and money.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:15 pm to musick
Mars is boring af
Let’s go somewhere else guys!!!
Let’s go somewhere else guys!!!
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:19 pm to Jcorye1
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Because for Human Beings to survive long term, we have to learn how to do this shite to escape our own sun exploding.
Well we better find a new solar system instead of wasting time on Mars.
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