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re: Baw bought a new Corvette and later found the engine was replaced at the dealer..

Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:00 pm to
I'm wondering why the documentation wasn't changed to reflect the current engine replacement? The car was never transferred to a private owner. Had this happened at the factory, thats what they would have done.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80838 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:02 pm to
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If he drives 25K miles a year


Who drives a Corvette 25k miles a year?
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17020 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:13 pm to
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Who drives a Corvette 25k miles a year?


LINK

I counted three on the first page that did 20-25K miles including the OP who did 25K+
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:30 pm to
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lsu xman

Are you a current owner or used to be?
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17020 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:39 pm to
Always wanted one. Might even hop in one right now if I had a Chevy and could get a $3K loyalty discount.

Just window shopping for a 2dr sports car for a possible buy next yr.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:47 pm to
Now is the time to get one. I was at the dealer a couple weeks back and they seem more eager now than ever to sell you one. I continually fight the urge to trade my old one but I still love tinkering with it and that usually makes that itch go away.
Hope you find something soon to enjoy.
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2914 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:50 pm to
Holy shite there is so much stupidity in this thread.

-Damage does not equal maintanence. A dealer has to disclose damage on a new vehicle at 500$ or more, like if the porter bumps another car and they have to replace a bumper.
-An engine replacement is maintanence wether it is at 7 miles or 170,000. Not required to be disclosed.
-Legally the dealership didn’t do anything wrong.
-No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car.
-Salesmen are idiots and generally know nothing about their own inventory

With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67020 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:52 pm to
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Not sure of the price, dickhead, but if I drop 90k on a fricking car, that motherfricker would be untouched in any way by the device dept, much less have a fricking motor issue.

Do you realize a car is just product of an ASSEMBLY line? The car is made up of many components that are checked prior to assembly. Occasionally, a part, in this case something in the engine, is discovered as being a problem after final assembly. It was then addressed at the dealer prior to sale. This is done all the time, and is probably the only good reason for auto manufacturers to have their own dealers. 99% of the time, the end customer should be glad this practice is done, because it will involve many times a safety issue.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:56 am to
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Holy shite there is so much stupidity in this thread.

-Damage does not equal maintanence. A dealer has to disclose damage on a new vehicle at 500$ or more, like if the porter bumps another car and they have to replace a bumper.
-An engine replacement is maintanence wether it is at 7 miles or 170,000. Not required to be disclosed.
-Legally the dealership didn’t do anything wrong.
-No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car.
-Salesmen are idiots and generally know nothing about their own inventory

With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.


Replacing an entire assembly, especially the engine, means there's damage.
Posted by TurkeysAndBees
Member since Jan 2017
651 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:32 am to
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Holy shite there is so much stupidity in this thread.

No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car


Yep, so much... A Corvette is not appraised and sold like your mom's Dodge Durango. They are usually bought by sports car enthusiasts who require documentation just like Porsche owners do. Most owners list their cars on enthusiast car finder sites and most buyers expect appraisals, documented maintenance, etc. .. For the appraisal of a Corvette one of the first criteria listed will be "Engine Casting Numbers and Motor Code"... not long after the VIN.

If they don't match you can expect a 25% hit... I think that "devalues the car" a bit.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 2:34 am
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74143 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:38 am to
Good response but they still should have been able to be upfront from the start.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79881 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:39 am to
It's a 2017 base model. It takes a 25% hit driving it off the lot.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 2:40 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 3:03 am to
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A Corvette is not appraised and sold like your mom's Dodge Durango


There are 484 corvettes listed on CarGurus within 100 miles of where I am located, 99.9% are going to be valued and sold exactly like a Dodge Durango. These are mass produced cars, only a extremely small number if any will ever be considered a classic and appreciate in value. In the year 2027 no one is going to care that a base model 2017 Corvette does not have matching numbers.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 4:54 am to
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With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.


This would be my concern as well. It's hard to get everything back just perfect after you replace a major component such as an engine. Obviously, the car isn't right because it developed a rattle.

The dealer should give him the option to have it replaced by a new vehicle. Nobody wants to own a vehicle that had the potential to require multiple vehicles trips to the dealer to fix issues that keep popping up.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:10 am to
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An engine replacement is maintanence

fricking no. Changing the oil in the engine is maintenance, changing the entire engine is a MAJOR REPAIR

You stupid.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12437 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:39 am to
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What makes it devalued?

It's a brand new factory engine installed by the dealership.


It isn't worth it for Cheverolet to defend the case vs just replacing the car. Which is likely what they will do to make the customer happy. The car will then be resold with no acknowledgement about the engine again.



I would think the devalue would be in a resale forward. If the service place ran the VIN and it popped up on something, most like reported on Carfax.

This is a performance car that has a huge part of its value is the motor. I would certainly want to know if they had to replace the motor if I were buying.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:49 am to
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Yeah, that Numbers Matching thing adding value is just a myth....

It most certainly is not.

My grandfather in law and uncle in law have owned different model vettes over the years. Matching numbers is a huge deal in resale.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13383 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:52 am to
Where does it state on B.B. value that a car is devalued because of motor replacement
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10681 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:59 am to
Stealership should have said or documented something.
Replacing the motor in a Vette requires a lot of disassembly and I'd be concerned about crappy manual reassembly and fitment of fenders, wells, brackets etc.
If it was a long block that would include all the engine bolt-ons- AC, PS, Alt, etc.
Should ask for the old engine for "parts".
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 7:04 am
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 7:00 am to
Dude should have bought him a Mustang
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