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re: Baw bought a new Corvette and later found the engine was replaced at the dealer..
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:00 pm to TurkeysAndBees
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:00 pm to TurkeysAndBees
I'm wondering why the documentation wasn't changed to reflect the current engine replacement? The car was never transferred to a private owner. Had this happened at the factory, thats what they would have done.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:02 pm to lsu xman
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If he drives 25K miles a year
Who drives a Corvette 25k miles a year?
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:30 pm to lsu xman
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lsu xman
Are you a current owner or used to be?
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:39 pm to Traveler
Always wanted one. Might even hop in one right now if I had a Chevy and could get a $3K loyalty discount.
Just window shopping for a 2dr sports car for a possible buy next yr.
Just window shopping for a 2dr sports car for a possible buy next yr.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:47 pm to lsu xman
Now is the time to get one. I was at the dealer a couple weeks back and they seem more eager now than ever to sell you one. I continually fight the urge to trade my old one but I still love tinkering with it and that usually makes that itch go away.
Hope you find something soon to enjoy.
Hope you find something soon to enjoy.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:50 pm to Traveler
Holy shite there is so much stupidity in this thread.
-Damage does not equal maintanence. A dealer has to disclose damage on a new vehicle at 500$ or more, like if the porter bumps another car and they have to replace a bumper.
-An engine replacement is maintanence wether it is at 7 miles or 170,000. Not required to be disclosed.
-Legally the dealership didn’t do anything wrong.
-No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car.
-Salesmen are idiots and generally know nothing about their own inventory
With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.
-Damage does not equal maintanence. A dealer has to disclose damage on a new vehicle at 500$ or more, like if the porter bumps another car and they have to replace a bumper.
-An engine replacement is maintanence wether it is at 7 miles or 170,000. Not required to be disclosed.
-Legally the dealership didn’t do anything wrong.
-No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car.
-Salesmen are idiots and generally know nothing about their own inventory
With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:52 pm to the LSUSaint
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Not sure of the price, dickhead, but if I drop 90k on a fricking car, that motherfricker would be untouched in any way by the device dept, much less have a fricking motor issue.
Do you realize a car is just product of an ASSEMBLY line? The car is made up of many components that are checked prior to assembly. Occasionally, a part, in this case something in the engine, is discovered as being a problem after final assembly. It was then addressed at the dealer prior to sale. This is done all the time, and is probably the only good reason for auto manufacturers to have their own dealers. 99% of the time, the end customer should be glad this practice is done, because it will involve many times a safety issue.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:56 am to Retrograde
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Holy shite there is so much stupidity in this thread.
-Damage does not equal maintanence. A dealer has to disclose damage on a new vehicle at 500$ or more, like if the porter bumps another car and they have to replace a bumper.
-An engine replacement is maintanence wether it is at 7 miles or 170,000. Not required to be disclosed.
-Legally the dealership didn’t do anything wrong.
-No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car.
-Salesmen are idiots and generally know nothing about their own inventory
With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.
Replacing an entire assembly, especially the engine, means there's damage.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:32 am to Retrograde
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Holy shite there is so much stupidity in this thread.
No one checks the fricking VIN on an engine when doing an appraisal, that won’t devalue the car
Yep, so much... A Corvette is not appraised and sold like your mom's Dodge Durango. They are usually bought by sports car enthusiasts who require documentation just like Porsche owners do. Most owners list their cars on enthusiast car finder sites and most buyers expect appraisals, documented maintenance, etc. .. For the appraisal of a Corvette one of the first criteria listed will be "Engine Casting Numbers and Motor Code"... not long after the VIN.
If they don't match you can expect a 25% hit... I think that "devalues the car" a bit.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 2:34 am
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:38 am to lsu xman
Good response but they still should have been able to be upfront from the start.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:39 am to TurkeysAndBees
It's a 2017 base model. It takes a 25% hit driving it off the lot.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 2:40 am
Posted on 12/24/17 at 3:03 am to TurkeysAndBees
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A Corvette is not appraised and sold like your mom's Dodge Durango
There are 484 corvettes listed on CarGurus within 100 miles of where I am located, 99.9% are going to be valued and sold exactly like a Dodge Durango. These are mass produced cars, only a extremely small number if any will ever be considered a classic and appreciate in value. In the year 2027 no one is going to care that a base model 2017 Corvette does not have matching numbers.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 4:54 am to Retrograde
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With that being said, when a car has an engine replaced there’s a 50/50 chances it will still be fricked up afterwards. Sucks.
This would be my concern as well. It's hard to get everything back just perfect after you replace a major component such as an engine. Obviously, the car isn't right because it developed a rattle.
The dealer should give him the option to have it replaced by a new vehicle. Nobody wants to own a vehicle that had the potential to require multiple vehicles trips to the dealer to fix issues that keep popping up.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:10 am to Retrograde
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An engine replacement is maintanence
fricking no. Changing the oil in the engine is maintenance, changing the entire engine is a MAJOR REPAIR
You stupid.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:39 am to fightin tigers
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What makes it devalued?
It's a brand new factory engine installed by the dealership.
It isn't worth it for Cheverolet to defend the case vs just replacing the car. Which is likely what they will do to make the customer happy. The car will then be resold with no acknowledgement about the engine again.
I would think the devalue would be in a resale forward. If the service place ran the VIN and it popped up on something, most like reported on Carfax.
This is a performance car that has a huge part of its value is the motor. I would certainly want to know if they had to replace the motor if I were buying.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:49 am to Hangit
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Yeah, that Numbers Matching thing adding value is just a myth....
It most certainly is not.
My grandfather in law and uncle in law have owned different model vettes over the years. Matching numbers is a huge deal in resale.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:52 am to weadjust
Where does it state on B.B. value that a car is devalued because of motor replacement
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:59 am to lsu xman
Stealership should have said or documented something.
Replacing the motor in a Vette requires a lot of disassembly and I'd be concerned about crappy manual reassembly and fitment of fenders, wells, brackets etc.
If it was a long block that would include all the engine bolt-ons- AC, PS, Alt, etc.
Should ask for the old engine for "parts".

Replacing the motor in a Vette requires a lot of disassembly and I'd be concerned about crappy manual reassembly and fitment of fenders, wells, brackets etc.
If it was a long block that would include all the engine bolt-ons- AC, PS, Alt, etc.
Should ask for the old engine for "parts".
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 7:04 am
Posted on 12/24/17 at 7:00 am to lsu xman
Dude should have bought him a Mustang
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