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re: Bartender Robbed at Gunpoint Says Owner Told Him 'Pay Back' or 'Get Fired'

Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:47 am to
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Murdock, who has been contacted by Newsweek for comment, wrote: "To me, the threat of losing one's job if they don't pay this money that was taken from a robbery is a violation of public policy and could very well result in a wrongful termination claim against the Bar."



That contract would be nullified in court as being signed under duress
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 9:48 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65851 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:47 am to
quote:

How many lawyers do you think a bartender has?



444-4444
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26251 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:21 am to
There has to be more to the story IMO

No sane employer would think it’s okay to make an employee pay back money from a robbery unless the employee was involved in the robbery and/or employee’s gross misconduct/negligence led to the robbery.

And no sane employee would ever sign and agree that they’d pay the money back.

This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15285 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:22 am to
Wait? Did the bartender seriously sign that?

Unless he lives in a rural area, it shouldn't be very difficult at all to find another bartending job. Maybe 1 where you are less likely to be robbed at gunpoint as well.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4569 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:27 am to
Inside job.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39907 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:28 am to
He had to have been in on the robbery and they know it and he has been informed they know it...

This is pay us back or we prosecute language.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10659 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:32 am to
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Unless he lives in a rural area, it shouldn't be very difficult at all to find another bartending job.


Bars and restaurants are kind of like the coaching profession, once you've been in it you can always get another job. Something is off about this story
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Back in the 80s I worked at a fast food restaurant. They didn't have a safe in the store so the closing manager had to drop the money in a night deposit box. One night I was robbed. The guy was an ex-employee. I told the police who ha was and they arrested him an hour later. He had spent $18.10 on gas, beer and cigs. My next bonus check was short $9.05 and the other managers check had the same amount deducted


Whelp, at a time of your choosing, you would be justified to reimburse yourself either monetarily, materially, or with unofficial paid “leave”.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20990 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 10:37 am to
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If I was that manager, everybody would eat free on my next shift.



Would be like Oprah Winfrey handing out hamburgers. You get one and you get one and you get one...
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16358 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:28 am to
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They hit him with the ole shock and awe and he didn't realize until later they had pulled a fast one.

Apparently it still took him awhile. He was only paying $300 a paycheck to cover a balance over $3,900. That means he paid it out over 13/14 pay periods since the document says paid in full.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164097 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:33 am to
That’s from December 2020 so it’s been paid back. Why did he come out about this now after he paid it back? How much of a functioning retard are we dealing with here.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16358 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:37 am to
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How much of a functioning retard are we dealing with here.

Apparently he's a career bartender, so...
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17230 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:38 am to
message from the employee:




And apparently they fired him anyway after he made his last payment but I'm not sure, this all comes from reddit and another forum I post on so just take it for what you will. If true though, it's really shitty
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19118 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:56 am to
He’s an idiot for actually paying it back. Even back in December 2020, places were hiring all over.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23374 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:59 am to
If the deduction lowered his pay below the minimum wage threshold (though he is probably a tipped employee which makes it likely that he receives a minimum wage even with the deduction), then the employer is violating the FLSA.

Even in cases where the employee took the money, an employer can only deduct below minimum wage if the employee has been convicted of the theft).
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6278 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:01 pm to
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an HR person signed that?


Do bars often have an HR person?
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2621 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:19 pm to
Sounds like there were multiple locations. If they have a large staff over multiple locations, probably.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

That contract would be nullified in court as being signed under duress


Yep, and if they fire him now it will be considered retaliatory.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25306 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

There has to be more to the story IMO
No, this is the OT. Everything needs to be accepted at face value.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15285 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:34 pm to
So they guy worked in Vegas. WTF, there's like 1000 bars in Vegas I'm sure.
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