re: Banning sugary drinks and tobacco

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But, why are tobacco and soda companies allowed to produce and sell a product that is addictive and negatively affects more lives than any illegal substance?

Why can’t someone mass produce heroin and sell it?

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So what are you advocating...allowing government to criminalize even more products, or are you looking to have them lessen that and make most things legal?

The first seems completely irrational given what we ought to know by now about what happens when you criminalize products people want.

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But, why are tobacco and soda companies allowed to produce and sell a product that is addictive and negatively affects more lives than any illegal substance?

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This is the same reason I believe marijuana should be legal. I don't smoke, use weed or drink sugary drinks but all should be legal and taxed.

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Banning two products would instantly improve the health of our country and lower the amount of money spent on healthcare.

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Is that how it worked out when we banned alcohol?

Banning products to reduce healthcare costs seem like the wrong way about going about reducing healthcare costs. It's like blaming guns for school shootings before addressing any of the "whys" kids are murdering people at schools.

Nah...this is a hearts and minds issue. Tobacco use and smoking has gone WAY down over the last few decades. I'm 48 and 2018 barely resembles the world I grew up in in terms of smoking. We're trending the right way there. Sugar has just recently been really outed for how terrible it is for you, having been protected for so long by lobbyists, etc. Like tobacco, sugar will likely wane over time, though never drop off almost entirely like tobacco.

But creating a black market for these things seem like a terrible idea.

We don't need more shitty laws or taxes. Just less shitty people.

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Tobacco use and smoking has gone WAY down over the last few decades. I'm 48 and 2018 barely resembles the world I grew up in in terms of smoking.

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Yep, at work when I first started I’d say 75% of the folks smoked and 10% dipped. Now maybe 10% smoke and probably 40% dip. At least as far as smokers it’s improved

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Would you support it? How much healthier would this country be if those two things went away?

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We shouldn't be banning anything anymore. This is America

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Tobacco use and smoking has gone WAY down over the last few decades. I'm 48 and 2018 barely resembles the world I grew up in in terms of smoking.

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I'm not sure I know anyone my age that I would consider a smoker. Of course, a bunch of people will smoke when they drink or things like that, but no one lights up at work or anything like that.

And for the record, being from N LA, I know plenty of objectively trashy people.

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I'm not sure I know anyone my age that I would consider a smoker. Of course, a bunch of people will smoke when they drink or things like that, but no one lights up at work or anything like that.

And for the record, being from N LA, I know plenty of objectively trashy people.

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When I was in high school and especially college pretty much all of us smoked. In high school many of us smoked or dipped. I’ve got kids now in high school, hardly anyone they know smokes, but they mostly just vape from what I see and hear. Of course I could get cigarettes for $1 a pack where now it’s $5-6 a pack.

Abortion must be protected because no one should tell a woman what to do with her body, but if someone wants to put a little soda in their stomach? BAN IT FOR THEIR OWN GOOD!
Makes sense.

kill any and all farm subsidies on tobacco - and pay farmers to farm something else.... tax it more.. no need to ban it.