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re: Baltimore City student ranks near the top half of his class with a 0.13 GPA
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 am to NIH
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 am to NIH
quote:
You think someone who has a .13 GPA has what it takes to show up everyday and learn a trade?
exactly. and yea he is off the books but he can do that by just withdrawing at 16.
everyone screaming trade school....does he sound like the type of person that is goign to go into the trades? fricking laughable peopel saying this.
ITS A CULTURE ISSUE!!!! The culture does not value hard work, education or family values. until that changes you are spinning your wheels.
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 am to lsu777
We’re talking about Baltimore here. The series, The Wire is an adequate depiction regarding how these kids with 0.13 GPA’s would rather idolize Marlo Stansfield, as opposed to blue-collar Joe, the Plumber.
It’s ingrained at an early age that hustling is the way to go in life and trade schools won’t fit that persona.
It’s ingrained at an early age that hustling is the way to go in life and trade schools won’t fit that persona.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:15 am to LordSaintly
quote:schools haven’t been able to just fail people like this since bush passed the no child left behind act. Or did you think teachers across the country collectively decided 15 years ago to just pass everybody?
The school fricked him over by not failing him years ago.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:18 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
I want to know the classes that he's passing
It was english 1 with a D, PE WITH A frickING B, And another class with a D.
So let’s be honest, he didn’t “pass” anything.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:18 am to Clames
quote:
A culture of complete lack of accountability.
Great at making excuses though.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:21 am to Commandeaux
Amidst all of this, I'm SHOCKED that the Baltimore teacher's union doesn't want to go back to school.
Some more gems from their website. I just can't believe Comcast would want to get paid for services.
Some more gems from their website. I just can't believe Comcast would want to get paid for services.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:22 am to Commandeaux
You can't help those who have no interest in helping themselves.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:24 am to Commandeaux
They just need someone from the black community to start a program with a nice catchy acronym. Something like PEAK!!! Peers Encouraging Acquisition of Knowledge...or maybe LAPS Leaders Achieving the Pinnacle of Success. They can harass people for money all year then have a banquet. No idea if it works, but that seems to be the thing to do.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:27 am to lsu777
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frick making excuses for shitty parenting and shitty culture, time to stand up to this and stop bowing down.
You should know by now that people in the teaching industry have been saying this for decades. Unfortunately, the US Federal Govt does nothing but fight and crush everybody who dares to say such things.
The USA is definitely against making public education in the USA better. The US Govt definitely wants its young people to be ignorant, stupid, totally unable to think for themselves, and totally dependent on electronic devices through which the youth can absorb the USA's comprehensive Leftist Radical propaganda.
The USA wants an ignorant and thoroughly indoctrinated populace. God help any individual on the US education industry who actually works to provide a quality REAL education to our youth - that's like trying to swim against a very strong current - better be strong and better be ready to be swept downstream.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:31 am to TigerFred
quote:
Needs to find a trade school.
Thats usually what happens. Get to game the pell grant system for several years after the GED.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:36 am to NIH
quote:
You think someone who has a .13 GPA has what it takes to show up everyday and learn a trade?
As someone whose family owns trade schools. Its what happens, however, they will take a 1-2 year program and draw it out over the maximum life of their pell grants[6 years or a certain dollar amount].
If they havent completed their program by then, about 50% of them will pay cash over the next year or two to finish out their program. Typically when forced to by employer or trade government oversight organization
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:44 am to lsu777
quote:
ITS A CULTURE ISSUE!!!! The culture does not value hard work, education or family values. until that changes you are spinning your wheels.
This is what i've been saying as well. Until you put it back on them to change their values and take responsibility for the humans they are creating, nothing will ever get better. But you can't say that, because it would be racist in today's world.
If the companies that were giving millions to the black hole that is BLM instead invested that money in depressed areas...improving schools, providing training for parents and child care for the kids, funding after school programs, bumping pay so they can get better teachers, etc etc etc, then we might actually start to see change. But no, it's gotta go to BLM. fricking laughable.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:46 am to Clames
quote:How do we expect anyone to succeed when it's never their fault if they fail? If you are continuously told that your failures are not your fault, and not only are they not your fault, but there is nothing that you can do about it, you're going to create a group of people who will never succeed and will despise those who do succeed.
A culture of complete lack of accountability.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:57 am to Sneaky__Sally
School system is ran by the government, led by people with term limits. He may have met requirements to be promoted by the previous term. Rules changed when new people were elected.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:11 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
How do we expect anyone to succeed when it's never their fault if they fail? If you are continuously told that your failures are not your fault, and not only are they not your fault, but there is nothing that you can do about it, you're going to create a group of people who will never succeed and will despise those who do succeed.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:48 pm to lsu777
quote:Most of the students who would benefit from a vocational training aren't dumb by any means. They are usually average students that have problems focusing (ADD usually). They have decent reading and math skills, they just can't sit still for more than 20 minutes. Because of this, they usually thrive in careers that require them to be on their feet a lot.
He failed math in 9th-12th grade, are we going to get rid of math now that is used in every trade? he failed any computer classes he had, reading, grammer....pretty much every class. Is trade school going to suddenly fix that? Should trade schools not teach basics?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:50 pm to Limitlesstigers
quote:
Most of the students who would benefit from a vocational training aren't dumb by any means. They are usually average students that have problems focusing (ADD usually). They have decent reading and math skills, they just can't sit still for more than 20 minutes. Because of this, they usually thrive in careers that require them to be on their feet a lot.
while true, they kid this story is about is well......not that. He missed 272 days in 4 years, he doesnt have an add problem, he has a parenting and resposibility problem.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:54 pm to lsu777
quote:I was agreeing with you lol. McDonald's standards are too high for this kid. I was just putting this out there for the people who criticize the education system by constantly saying "mUh tRaDes."
while true, they kid this story is about is well......not that. He missed 272 days in 4 years, he doesnt have an add problem, he has a parenting and resposibility problem.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:12 pm to Commandeaux
This entire story just saddens me so much.
Why would the school still pass him along those year. They are at fault.
The parents are fully at fault as well. The mother doesn't give a shite about her child, otherwise she would have made issues way back in Freshman year when he still progressed after not passing a single class. No father mentioned in story, so he maybe absent. He still bears full responsibility for his child being a failure.
The fact that there's plenty of students with even lower GPAs than this is absolutely horrendous. Shame on the school for simply allowing this. I've seen some bad schools, I don't know if Ive seen anything this bad.
Honestly, at this point is there any possible chance that this kid could still be successful at all. There's practically zero chance of him just starting over as a freshman and actually completing school in 4 years. In fact I wouldn't even advise him to do that. It would somewhat be a waste of time imo. Maybe he could do about 2 years and try and get a GED?
Get a job at a warehouse. Start at about $10/hr. Eventually he could get a fork lift certificate maybe. Or he could work his way up through fast food ranks. Or maybe he could get a CDL and go that route.
Of courses all of these things are totally predicated on him actually wanting to do something with his life besides going to prison.
Why would the school still pass him along those year. They are at fault.
The parents are fully at fault as well. The mother doesn't give a shite about her child, otherwise she would have made issues way back in Freshman year when he still progressed after not passing a single class. No father mentioned in story, so he maybe absent. He still bears full responsibility for his child being a failure.
The fact that there's plenty of students with even lower GPAs than this is absolutely horrendous. Shame on the school for simply allowing this. I've seen some bad schools, I don't know if Ive seen anything this bad.
Honestly, at this point is there any possible chance that this kid could still be successful at all. There's practically zero chance of him just starting over as a freshman and actually completing school in 4 years. In fact I wouldn't even advise him to do that. It would somewhat be a waste of time imo. Maybe he could do about 2 years and try and get a GED?
Get a job at a warehouse. Start at about $10/hr. Eventually he could get a fork lift certificate maybe. Or he could work his way up through fast food ranks. Or maybe he could get a CDL and go that route.
Of courses all of these things are totally predicated on him actually wanting to do something with his life besides going to prison.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 10:15 pm to Commandeaux
quote:no. It is just funny.
This would be funny if it wasn't extremely sad. How in the hell did this woman not know how her son was doing in school.
You ask that with a straight face? Half the inner city parents would be just fine if the kids just disappeared.
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